Elon Musk needs his own thread because he's in every damn thing/positive Elon Musk

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  1. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    Can't imagine what Woodward’s next book will reveal. :rolleyes:
     
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  2. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
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    Of all the things COVID related to be concerned about with trump….sending a couple of point of care pcr testing machines with a throughput of 10 to 12 samples per hour isn’t one of them…particularly on the “Americans are dying” front. The real scandal is that it made it much easier and more efficient for Putin to manage his inner circle by having near portable PCR testing available wherever Putin traveled around Moscow or Russia.
     
  3. celito

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    Yes I understand it. I still find it preposterous. If it ever comes out to be true, I will eat crow. Anyways, this is the Elon thread ... so need to extend this.
     
  4. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    I don't think it's a matter of anyone 'eating crow', (whatever THAT means... I've never been too sure). I just find it strange that, of all the things we DO have been done by Trump and Putin, THAT'S the one that completely unbelievable.

    I mean, this is the guy we're talking about...

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    Frankly the guy's a complete nutjob and I can WELL imagine him thinking that getting a couple of women to piss on a bed to compromise someone who was well connected to many people in the hierarchies of US society would be a pretty normal thing to do.

    As I said, Trump's neither here nor there in this.
     
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  5. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    I don't think a British person can relate to the scale of corruption in American politics. It's ingrained at every level. If a UK MP gets his lawn mown for free its a national scandal.

    I speak as a Brit who lived in the US for 27 years.
     
  6. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

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    How many men in Congress have been credibly accused of illegal sexual misconduct? How many were reelected?

    It's like the NFL, no one cares so long as the masses have their bread and circus.
     
  7. The Jitty Slitter

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    interesting listening to coverage of the Musk Robotaxi event.

    The booster coverage is this is Musk the great marketer doing what he always does.

    The more serious coverage points out there was nothing here. He’s promised Robo taxi for 8 years. Waymo already have a deployment of this product. What is Tesla offering in the space?

    And the robots were silly and not new. other events have done this lol.

    this company is increasingly a giant fraud iMO.

    He sure needs Trump to win the election.
     
  8. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

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    The induction charging shows some thinking about the eventual infrastructure, but they're counting chickens before they hatch here. The most important thing is the driving, and the style and colors of the cars don't matter if they can't do that. Tesla robotaxies will need at least 10 years to get to where Waymo is now, if they ever do.
     
  9. The Jitty Slitter

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    Yes. It's about the regulatory pathway which Waymo established for everyone to follow. It probably is not going to be the case that you own a car that freelances as a cab. Rather, companies will dominate the space like Waymo and probably Uber.
     
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  10. Paul Berry

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    Musk will end up rolling out Robotaxis with human drivers.
     
  11. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    You mean I get to ride in one of these at some point???

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    :)
     
  12. Jenks

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    Corruption is completely normal in British politics, and the media also. That's why you get stories about Starmer accepting a free coat or whatever, but then nothing about the government contracts that Labour or the Tories throw their friends way when they're elected.
     
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  13. ElNaranja

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    The human drivers will be doing so virtually from the Philippines for pennies on the dollar. And if their delay in rear view camera is any indication, it'll be a disaster and lots of people will get hurt and die.
     
  14. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

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    If taxis are so profitable, it makes no sense for Tesla to sell the cars. Is it a way to pass on liability to individuals?
     
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  15. Naughtius Maximus

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    Take a wild guess,
     
  16. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    So a piece of technology, (which I'm guessing Musk had next to nothing to do with), works as designed?

    Yeah, I feel the same way every time my TV switches on when I press the button.
    The industrial levels of corruption the tories indulged in, (which included tens of billions of dollars of corrupt contracts and backhanders for them and their friends), are in another league to anything labour has done or is ever LIKELY to do.
     
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  17. The Jitty Slitter

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    That was the interesting part of the discussion i listened to. Like, its probably only going to be profitable if you have network scale like Uber, IIRC that was an original idea of their business model - get rid of all the drivers and it's loads of profit for them.
     
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  18. Naughtius Maximus

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    Oh that could DEFINITELY work on a commercial basis. It would almost impossible NOT to make money on that basis as the cars could be operated 24hrs a day apart from charging and servicing, (particularly if they're electric).

    The problem is the underlying technology which just doesn't work as it would need to.
     
  19. Jenks

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    He's the lead engineer at SpaceX. The company as it is would not exist without him. What they're doing is revolutionary.

    My sweet summer child, the Tories did nothing new, and nothing Labour aren't already looking to do too. It's not by some cosmic coincidence that suddenly they want to cover fields in overcast England with solar farms while ignoring nuclear. They're settling their debts, just as the Tories did with the hotel schemes for their mates who own Serco and the like.
     
  20. ElNaranja

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    Musk is not an engineer.

    And no engineer would create a car with no safety measures, in this case no steering wheel and pedals. That's just insane.
     
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  21. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

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    He is not the lead engineer. He is the visionary, no doubt, but he has a lot of very capable engineers that believe in his vision and he has the money to carry it out.
     
  22. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

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    Chief engineer, I should say. There's a decent Reddit page (ew) that collates some of the things his colleagues (and perhaps more insightfully) his former colleagues say about his work at SpaceX:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLoun...ce_that_musk_is_the_chief_engineer_of_spacex/
     
  23. cliche_guevara

    cliche_guevara Member+

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    And Frank Sinatra was Chairman of the Board. Doesn't mean shit.
     
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  24. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Or maybe those geeky robot bartenders controlled with a joystick

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  25. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    I don't know if this is right but this guy says that the Cybertruck hasn't been crash tested...



    I'm gonna guess and say, yeah, that sound about right :)
     
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