Elon Musk needs his own thread because he's in every damn thing/positive Elon Musk

To be fair, this whole democracy thing is new to us too. We didn't have universal suffrage until the 60s. Before then, we had vast swaths of the country who had no political power. And ever since then, the GOP has been stripping it away piecemeal. Also about the time the GOP started meddling to get one up on their opponents (see Nixon and Reagan).

 

Brazil became a democracy in 1822.
Since 1985 it's been a continuous democracy.

 

What could be concerning about Brazil actions here? Why the both sideism?

 

It's complicated. There are two sides. Not for this thread though.

 

It's changed its avi

 

It's not really both sideism.. I'm not saying the Brazilian Judge's actions were out of line, but the "concerning" part is where the line is drawn and how firm that line is. I suspect that this would have been a non-issue if Musk hadn't decided to be a dunce and pull out of Brazil rather than comply, but any time you have censorship it is concerning. Just that. Concerning and worth keeping an eye on.

 

I see your point although we need to be careful with the liberal use of "censorship". That is the first reaction from the far right when laws are being applied against them. We heard similar stories about the Telegram dude in France when the reality of the situation is totally different.

 

Well, that's certainly one interpretation I suppose

Reading the wiki about Brazil's political it seems to have a had 'interesting' past...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Brazil

As you say, it's had a democratic system for the past 39 years so, y'know... that's something I suppose

 

I agree it needs watching but I think Brazil is probably in a more precarious position than countries which have a long history of democratic norms and institutions to match.

 

Prove that there aren't.

 

Also it's worth remembering that the allegation is NOT that Trump got women to piss on him or him on them but that the two women pissed on each other in front of him.

I mentioned that as a difference because, if we ask ourselves, if the Russian government, (Prop: V. Putin), wanted kompromat on someone, what better way than to send him two girls who will do the most embarrassing thing possible. Him having sex with them isn't particularly embarrassing as I'm lead to believe that's kinda the point of prostitutes?

To be clear, I have absolutely NO idea if the allegations are true or not.

I'm just saying, it's probably not THAT outlandish that someone would try and get him into that position. It's also not beyond belief that he's dumb enough to fall for it.

 

He's a walking kompromat machine. But kompromat doesn't work on a person who doesn't understand the notion of shame.

 

Not to many true germaphobes raw dog porn stars…so I’m interested why your world class skepticism suddenly breaks when it’s favorable to Trump?

 

Is the orange fascist that different than Mark Robinson? I don't think so. It wouldn't surprise me at all if it were true. But it would surprise me if it made a difference to anyone.

 

That's an outrageous slander and you should apologize. Republicans would only believe piss is a healthy and nutritious drink if Donald Trump told them that. Which he categorically has not done yet, as far as I know.

 

You understand that the allegation in the dossier was that when Trump learned that Barack and Michelle had stayed at the hotel..he rented that room and hired hookers to piss on the BED.:.not that he asked them to piss on him. So your entire grounds for skepticism is because you never bothered even reading what was alleged. It was never clear from the dossier whether trump actually stated in the room…or booked it for this purpose and then stayed elsewhere.

And that was only ONE example of the type of kompromat the kremlin had compiled on Trump cause he’s a sick ******** that raw dogs porn stars.

 

You must have memory-holed this:
https://www.reuters.com/article/fac...t-urine-therapy-cures-covid-19-idUSL1N2TS215/

But yes, Trump never extolled the virtues of piss-drinking.