El indecido me molesta, si no me quiero, Transfer Thead 2016

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  1. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    not sure about that. Like @GunneRy said, Ramsey had shown flashes of being the player he became at a younger age than Ox and strung together a real consistent stretch of play. Then he got maimed.

    Ox was never at that level of play, especially not consistently.

    We dont have a choice but to wait him out, but I am really skeptical he will be the player his talent shows. He may need to be loaned out.
     
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  2. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Wouldn't bizarro world be Arsenal making a lot of new signings?
     
  3. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I think there's a difference between giving the ball away and being bad positionally - it looks like Ox is good positionally (or rather, I don't remember Ox failing to track runs).

    Players stop giving the ball away in bad positions (see Ramsey, Aaron).

    Re: crossing, I wish players would stop doing it. It's a low probability tactic, and should be treated like shots from distance, i.e. only used as a change of pace.

    Fair enough. But players that one footed are absurdly good with that foot. Campbell is not that.

    Also, I've seen Ozil and Wilshere use their right foot at times (and score with it too). Don't think I've ever seen Campbell use his right.
     
  4. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    It's possible that you guys are right, and Ox ends up being someone like a Shaqiri or a Deulefeu, someone who's good in flashes and good enough to be the best player on a mid-table side, but not good enough to feature for a top team.

    If he doesn't improve this season, though, it'll be time to cut bait.
     
  5. gogunners14

    gogunners14 Member+

    Dec 6, 2003
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    rumor floating that mustafi did not travel with Valencia to Finland for pre season friendly. no idea if this is true or not. edit: potentially being rested following euros. that would make sense
     
  6. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At the end of the day, it is almost like arguing on semantics. Theo, JC and Ox are average to mediocre players and it does not make any sense to keep all three on our roster. Granted that I believe Ox may be the best out of this (sad bunch), nevertheless 2 out of these 3 should be sold to make ways for a real talented and creative player (Mahrez/Fekir/Drax etc).
    Our RW is a black hole and we need much more from this position than the meager return we have gotten last season from this trio. That is actually my biggest beef with Wenger, keeping a bunch of average dudes around and hoping/ believing they will become top players.
     
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  7. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    RW is not a black hole at all if Wenger does something creative like putting Ozil on RW.
     
  8. total_football

    total_football Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Puts Xhaka and Ramsey in MF where they belong and
    JFW at 10, his best position . I like it.
     
  9. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In theory it sound great but...
    1. Ozil has openly stated that he is not a fan of playing out wide
    2. Ozil has less than ideal speed for the wing
     
  10. DIMITAR BERBATOV!

    Aug 2, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I sort of hate it when he plays Ramsey or Ozil wide tbh. Not a fan of that at all.

    I could kinda see it working with Santi, but I think you'd need the fullback to push forward a lot to provide width in that case.
     
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  11. Shen-O

    Shen-O Member+

    United States
    Jul 26, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Santi on the wing looks like someone who should retire. We moved him on from that position for a reason. I'd rather put Ramsey at WR than Ozil, but preferably, neither.
     
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  12. BIGHMW

    BIGHMW Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Port Townsend, WA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ...with either the Mariners or my old Dodgers winning the World Series,

    Arsenal leading the EPL table at that time by a country mile,

    and,

    with my beloved Los Angeles Kings tearing shit up on the ice to start our 50th NHL season, and I am damn proud to have been a Kings fan since 1975, and for me this will be my 42nd season, and for those of you fellow Gooners who haven't seen it, here is a link to my 10-part miniseries of my fandom of the Kings, a (somewhat) show-and-tell type series, entitled "Loyalty To Royalty", enjoy!!! ....and GO KINGS GO!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0mCbz5fX3-VUgBwYVeqmfsKAuaoog48S
     
  13. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Ozil plays out wide for us now. He is out there all the time for us.

    When has Ozil ever said he does not like playing wide?

    And you guys keep thinking its a set position. He can still cut in field. I just want to lessen his defensive burden.

    Honestly, you can play Jack or Ramsey out wide or Ozil. It dont matter.

    Arsenal dont play with much width from the attacking players

    And Santi out wide is poverty.
     
  14. Twiggy

    Twiggy Member

    May 13, 2012
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Have we ever seen jack get a run out wide? I honestly can't recall
    We seem to cut inside or "build" on the wing more than we race to the byline lately unless it's an overlap from nacho ballerinas so his skillset (pending fitness and new signings that make thinking about it inconsequential) might work despite a lack of pace
     
  15. Twiggy

    Twiggy Member

    May 13, 2012
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nacho ballerinas.... Meant to be nacho / bellerin
     
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  16. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    He played there a lot in youth teams and he was pretty good
     
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  17. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    Exactly, we need to ship out two out of three. Would rather keep JC than OX as the latter is cheaper and last year showed good effort while Ox looked so low on confidence when he was put on but then again why keep JC when Wenger doesn't trust him. An upgrade would be heaven so we wouldn't have to rely on any 3.

    My concern at CF is our effort or lack of to get a serious one this late on, so we can brace ourselves fr more Walcott time. Sometimes I wish he was an outlaw like Pennant or Bendtner who were flushed out of the team for their legal/drinking/lazy behavior.
     
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  18. crazy150

    crazy150 Member+

    Aug 27, 2006
    North Cuba
    Yes. Ox will be 23 when the the season starts. By that time Ramsey had his break out season. While
    I don't particularly rate him in this squad, in the right position he can be quite good.

    At 23 Ox has never had a great season. We are paying him, Jack and theo collectively over 250k/wk almost for what? Who was the last British player to come good after the age of 22? Seriously, I don't know, but if say the chances of him becoming a world beater are pretty low. We have immediate concerns and I'd sacrifice him in a heartbeat to get a proven Rw in.
     
  19. MilesW

    MilesW Member+

    Aug 26, 2010
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I was more alluding to a certain team that's currently destroying the Mariners winning the WS. But such things can't be talked about.
     
  20. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Apparently Mahrez is set to stay at Leceister.

    Riyad Mahrez is set to snub Arsenal & sign a new £100,000-a-week contract at Leicester City. (Source: Daily Express)
     
  21. Gunning4Chelsea

    Gunning4Chelsea Member+

    Aug 2, 2005
    chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Indeed
    ******** this window ... So frustrating ..
    all of our failed targets are aired like dirty underpants
     
  22. gunner0007

    gunner0007 Member+

    Jul 19, 2005
    Bahamas
    That's what I'm seeing as well. I'm also seeing that we are focusing on a striker when Aulas says we aren't getting him. Really tired of the back and forth and I really now don't think we are getting anyone.
     
  23. DIMITAR BERBATOV!

    Aug 2, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We'll sign two players. A striker/winger and a center back.

    :cool:
     
  24. Gunning4Chelsea

    Gunning4Chelsea Member+

    Aug 2, 2005
    chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok gents
    I am going on a sabbatical from the board
     
  25. Fifty

    Fifty Member

    Mar 11, 2012
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe Wenger has burned too many bridges with his cheapness and demands.
     

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