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  1. Ssr9

    Ssr9 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Nov 10, 2008
    Sydney
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Mali
    I hear what you’re saying.
    That’s how I felt after the 5-2 loss against Atletico. I like what being implemented…and when the big game came, he switched up for some reason.

    But for yesterday I can also understand him thinking: “we’re not good right now, if I take any risks, we’re getting slaughtered”

    To get back on track, what we need is the club to tell him “play your way, we’ll back you 100%”….otherwise we’re setting him up to fail.
     
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  2. Mithrandir11

    Mithrandir11 Member

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Mar 12, 2025
    I'm still of the opinion that this Barcelona team is better than us, but it's highly overrated. Their attack is lethal, but their defence is pretty bad. Combined with the style they play, we should score at least two goals every time we face them. Especially because the defence plays to our strengths with so much open space , and Yamal and Raphina - to a lesser extent - don't really bother defending.

    It's just a bad record that the team scored through an individual effort and then through a set piece. It should be much easier to penetrate this Barcelona side's defence, but unfortunately there's just no proper link-up.

    And then there is the endless cycle of player injuries. Given today's standards and the fact that football, like any other entertainment industry, is heading towards maximising revenue, which comes with maximising the number of games played, you can't afford to have injury-prone players. Alaba, Mendy, Militao or Camavinga. . . they do not work - not as starters you can count on, anyway. With Trent you seem to have another case, even though I don't know if he had those injuries at Liverpool as well.
     
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  3. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Defensive numbers for Barca are heavily flawed because they generally have a ridiculous ball possesion, it's hard to test how a player defends when his team practically holds the ball for 7 out of every 10 minutes played.
     
  4. Raul-7

    Raul-7 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 17, 2006




     
  5. Aensensen

    Aensensen Member+

    Croatia
    Jun 10, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I was admittedly high on Xabi arriving last summer. And a lot of what he did seemed to work for a while. But he does confuse me with his decisions sometimes. Subs and formations especially.

    This time around in this game, I kind of get it I guess. Loads of injuries etc. I rather look at the last classico to see what we can do when players are healthy.

    But the truth is we haven't really played "rock n' roll" football, and that's a burden Xabi put on himself unnecessarily (have to agree with @4x4s on that).

    He is only a young coach and I liked his overall character as a player, but as a manager you have to not only coach but also manage. That's a tough task for anyone at Real Madrid, let alone someone so new to the job. Maybe I'm too lenient, but I still think he can succeed here if the club (Florentino and the board) work with him. Still rooting for him.
     
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  6. undertow

    undertow Member

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Nov 22, 2020
    This is embarrassing.

    Espanol played better against Barca than us. In fact if you watch most Barca matches you will see that even the poorest teams in la liga create multitude of chances against Barcelona. That is nothing to shout home about.

    I'm actually exhausted by it all. Xabi has not improved the team at all, I don't see why we should invest in him with new signings in the summer. He hasn't proven anything. He should leave in the summer.
     
  7. Halycon

    Halycon Member+

    Aug 24, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Espanyol, Elche, Sevilla you name them all created more chances than us. Even Frankfurt, Brugge etc. Cowardly approach, I’d rather try and lose 4-1 than play this cowardly football and lose anyway 3-2.

    We could have easily beaten this Barca, i’m still not convinced by them. Many teams in Europe have benefited from their weakness, while we from time to time give them the ball, let them look way better than they actually are. This was also under Carlo.

    This isn’t on the coach anymore, it’s on the players. If they don’t want to play a certain style of football, than get the ******** out.
     
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  8. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Lately hes been doing a lot more managing than coaching. To the point of giving up the implementation of any specific idea or the development of identity.
     
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  9. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 11, 2018
    He should get back to coaching and less managing now - leave it to the club / players to sort their on shit.

    All honesty, the writing is on the wall. He isn't going to be here next season so try and get the best of what we have not and see what we end up with end of season.
     
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  10. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    He can still get fired at any point or he might still be here next season. So this approach youre suggesting is not rational from his POV.
     
  11. Aensensen

    Aensensen Member+

    Croatia
    Jun 10, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    You're not wrong. The key is finding the balance, what can he impose and where he has to make compromises. At the moment it certainly seems like he is lost in the sauce. Subs kind of show that. On the other hand it has worked with some players. Rodrygo seems to be kicking into his best form and he loves Xabi - even publicly made a statement the team is with him after running to hug him after scoring a goal... It's a fine balancing act. Especially when unchecked egos have been allowed to grow for this long.
     
  12. libertao

    libertao Member+

    Mar 15, 2006
    You are both exaggerating Barcelona's defensive frailties. They hadn't conceded a single in nearly a month before they played us. Obviously that includes the winter break, but that was still something like 9+ hours of play without conceding a single goal.
     
  13. boeder

    boeder Member+

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Feb 27, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    It's a lost case. His "era" effectively ended months ago; Perez/JAS are evidently not convinced by him and will never afford him the control, support or personnel he needs.

    The only thing holding them back from sacking Xabi is that they don't have a high-profile replacement. Klopp and Zidane will never happen and other "big" names will not risk their careers/reputation joining a circus where divas rule.

    That's why I think Xabi should have grown a pair and continued with his plans and philosophy. He'll be fired anyway, it's just a suspended sentence. That's my main gripe with him..
     
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  14. Ssr9

    Ssr9 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Nov 10, 2008
    Sydney
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Mali
    Good point. I hope he still has time.
    Play your game, bring up Cestero and Pitarch. Try something new in that midfield.
     
  15. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Thats what Im saying, nobody can know that for sure. So from Xabi's perspective its better to try to win now by being conservative, rather than experiment and lose just to learn lessons for the future. Because if he keeps winning, maybe he gets to stay. Its always the same story.
     
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  16. Raul-7

    Raul-7 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 17, 2006
  17. Bear Crotch

    Bear Crotch Member+

    Jan 2, 2008
    Ohio, United States
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Either Barcelona's players have more talent than ours or they listen to instructions better than ours. It's one or the other. Either answer doesn't make me feel good.
     
  18. boeder

    boeder Member+

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Feb 27, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    "But he's the only one that runs" :ROFLMAO:

    If you watch closely, his every first touch turns into a duel
     
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  19. boeder

    boeder Member+

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Feb 27, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Yeah this conversation didn't age well :ROFLMAO:
     
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  20. Raul-7

    Raul-7 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 17, 2006
    But it's true; when you are RM manager - you are guilty until proven innocent. Hence you don't really have time to experiment, etc. as any small slip up and then the sandglass to your demise begins.
     
  21. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    They learn to play in a certain way from the moment they start taking football serious. Barcelona don't play the same kind of football across every coach but certain elements carry.
     
  22. Halycon

    Halycon Member+

    Aug 24, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    And they get players who are suited for that style or already familiar. Balde, Fermin, Lamine, Cubarsi own youth.

    Pedri, Olmo Spanish and suited to their style.

    Lewa/Torres suited familiar.

    Frenkie played for Ajax which used to play the same. Suited and familiar.

    Kounde and Raphina only ‘outsiders’.
     
  23. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Even Raphina has deep family connections there.
     
  24. Nathanial Essex

    Nathanial Essex Member+

    Real Madrid
    England
    Mar 19, 2017
    I think
    You swap them round and stats don't stay the same. Bellingham isn't going to have as many passes when we hardly have any possession.
     
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  25. madridismo

    madridismo Member+

    Feb 28, 2007
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Also what the heck was that thing about not giving a guard of honor to the winning team? I have never seen a team just refuse to do it like we did? It is so uncharacteristic of us.
     
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