Jorge Sánchez @ AFC Ajax

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  1. LGRod

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    #501 LGRod, Dec 12, 2020
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  2. Orange14

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    Apr 27, 2007
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    Club:
    AFC Ajax
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    Netherlands
    #502 Orange14, Dec 12, 2020
    I thought he had a good 45 minutes. Came in as a MF and then moved back to Central Defense when Schuurs was subbed off. He had two really fine cross field passes that were right on the money to the left winger. He had a couple of good interventions as well. I think he will start in the Cup match this coming Wednesday against Utrecht but I don't know which position. I suspect there will be some players rested but you can never tell what ETH is thinking. Two more league matches before the holiday break.
     
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  3. Saldgotti1991

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    Jun 7, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    #503 Saldgotti1991, Dec 12, 2020
    He plays well, but he’s not a major asset when attacking, definitely an asset when defending. Hopefully he leaves this January window to a team that can fit him in their starting line up.
     
  4. Philip J. Fry

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    #504 Philip J. Fry, Dec 13, 2020
     
  5. Orange14

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    Apr 27, 2007
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    #505 Orange14, Dec 13, 2020
    I think he stays the season at Ajax as he can play multiple positions. I have always been unconvinced by Klaassen and think Alvarez is a better choice but it's just taking him a longer period of time to settle in. Given all the injuries and the latest situation, Ajax are not likely to let any players leave in January.
     
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  6. ...In my defense

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    #506 ...In my defense, Dec 14, 2020
    Personally, I don't think there is much of a comparison between Klaassen and Alvarez. They're just different players where Edson's strengths are on the defensive side.

    If Ajax expects him to play that very unique role of being a defensive midfielder that constantly becomes the offensive fulcrum from the back then I don't think it's ever going to happen.
     
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  7. Orange14

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    Apr 27, 2007
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    #507 Orange14, Dec 16, 2020
    Alvarez played the first 73 minutes at DM and did very well in the cup match. I honestly don't know why he was subbed off when Klaassen was running on empty and I would have left him on. He had one good attacking header but couldn't get over the ball so it sailed over the bar. Several key interventions and better passing today. There are a lot of tired MFs on Ajax right now and I think he will get playing time in the last two league matches of this year.
     
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  8. Philip J. Fry

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    #508 Philip J. Fry, Dec 16, 2020
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  9. Orange14

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    #509 Orange14, Dec 18, 2020
    The major Amsterdam paper reports today that Valencia wants to take on Alvarez on loan with an option to purchase. I didn't know that Alvarez is angry at Ajax for not doing more to allow his girlfriend and child to join them in Holland. We'll see how this plays out but I now think he will be leaving.

    Here is the article in Dutch: https://www.ajaxshowtime.com/articl...valencia-wil-alvarez-huren-met-optie-tot-koop
     
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  10. Saldgotti1991

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    #510 Saldgotti1991, Dec 18, 2020
    So personal issues... well if he goes to Valencia, hopefully they support him in all facets of his career.
     
  11. ...In my defense

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    #511 ...In my defense, Dec 18, 2020
    It must be tough for Edson to have to deal with being away from his family but maybe our resident Dutch nationals can expand on that a bit. What could Ajax have done, realistically?
     
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  12. Saldgotti1991

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    #512 Saldgotti1991, Dec 18, 2020
    Maybe Alvarez isn’t married, that’s why. Chucky had no issues, but he was married.
     
  13. Orange14

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    #513 Orange14, Dec 18, 2020
    The only issue that I foresee is that Valencia as with many other Spanish teams have no money to spend and I'm not sure they can guarantee Ajax they would have funds to purchase the player at the end of the season.
     
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  14. Blue_Demon

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    #514 Blue_Demon, Dec 20, 2020
    On the bench vs. ADO Den Haag.
    [​IMG]
     
  15. blue4211

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    #515 blue4211, Dec 20, 2020
    Valencia is a team with an owner that doesn't have money or doesn't want to invest in the team. Also, it has an unfinished stadium that they can't afford to finish, but it is a huge club in Spain. So they definitely can't afford the 15 million to buy him but if they can get him on loan and give him playing time that would be great.
    Edson needs to play more, Ajax seems to want a more offensive MF, can Edson do that? What does Edson need to do to get more playing time? If he will get more playing time then he should stay but if he won't get playing time he needs to go somewhere where he will because I don't thin he's played enough in the year 2020.
     
  16. feyenoordsoccerfan

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    #516 feyenoordsoccerfan, Jan 8, 2021
    Ajax has told Edson he cannot go to Valencia.
     
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  17. ShockMaster

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    #517 ShockMaster, Jan 8, 2021
    Money is probably the issue, Valencia’s situation looks bleaker everyday
     
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  18. feyenoordsoccerfan

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    #518 feyenoordsoccerfan, Jan 9, 2021
    No. Ten Hag has told the board he doesnot want to lose players this window.
     
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  19. Saldgotti1991

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    #519 Saldgotti1991, Jan 10, 2021
    Well then play him...
     
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  20. Special_talent23

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    #520 Special_talent23, Jan 14, 2021
    Seamos sinceros.

    A Edson le está quedando grande la camiseta del Ajax.

    Alvarez es un buen jugador pero es muy lento físicamente, y técnicamente no es muy bueno para ser contención, de acuerdo con los parámetros del fútbol europeo moderno.
     
  21. ...In my defense

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    #521 ...In my defense, Jan 14, 2021
    lol
     
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  22. Special_talent23

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    #522 Special_talent23, Jan 14, 2021
    Es la realidad, y yo soy mucho de apoyar a nuestros jugadores, pero a Edson le ha pesado la camiseta.
     
  23. beat junky

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    #523 beat junky, Jan 14, 2021
    Lettuce be real....Alvarez has been a disappointment abroad considering what we all were expecting of him.

    Duse has had very limited playing time.
     
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  24. El Pipiripau

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    Escondido!!!
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    #524 El Pipiripau, Jan 14, 2021
    I disagree, I think he’s fine and will be fine. I’m extremely confident he will making his mark soon enough. He needs to leave I think, though I think he’ll have his moments this year.
     
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  25. beat junky

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    #525 beat junky, Jan 14, 2021
    But that’s not what I’m saying...my point is he’s got all the physical tools to succeed but has yet to break through.

    I still believe in him but it’s been a disappointment.
     
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