Ecuador NT (Post-World Cup)

Discussion in 'Ecuador - National Team' started by LDU4ever, Nov 29, 2022.

  1. \^the king^/

    \^the king^/ Member

    Jul 4, 2007
    wherevr da action @
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    I’m willing to bet the serie A from ecuador has been the most competitive in libertadores and sudamericana in the past decade (barring the obvious argies and bra)

    big day today, it’s time to find out the last 3 opponents of the becca cycle (I kid I kid LOL)
     
  2. cabezamagica

    cabezamagica Member

    Feb 10, 2011
    NYC
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Damn they hijacked the WC show for political propaganda,Infantino is the biggest lambon ever
     
  3. cabezamagica

    cabezamagica Member

    Feb 10, 2011
    NYC
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    How do you guys see Group E ?I think we can go through to next phase.Germany is not the same as other WC,Ivory Coast is not Senegal,Curazao’s first time ,there’s no excuse .
     
  4. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    The group is accessible. We need Moises for the first game against Senegal. African teams can be physical.
     
  5. cabezamagica

    cabezamagica Member

    Feb 10, 2011
    NYC
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    We’re not playing Senegal we’re playing Ivory Coast
     
  6. GPisco

    GPisco Member

    Jul 22, 2014
    Toronto, On
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Its a solid group, its Ecuadors group to lose really. Solid Euro team, tough direct rival and 3pts. We've seen i before and hopefully we've learned from past experiences and get it done.

    We play Ivory Coast first and although they are no Senegal, we also have no Moises Caicedo. This game will be very physical, without Caicedo this game might prove to be a bit harder. I think we have enough to pull it through by a goal.

    Onto Curacao for game 2, this "should" be an easy 3pts + goals no excuses.

    Germany are far from the juggernaut they used to be, but you should never count them out. This game can go either way, especially if the Germans are in need of points. If Ecuador want to be taken seriously and make that jump this is that statement game to win.

    Defensively i think it will be hard for any team in this group to score a goal on us, and extremely difficult to score multiple. But all it takes is one defensive lapse and points are out the window. If we can't score it is over. Ecuador can easily top the group and easily be sent home with 3 scoreless draws.
     
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  7. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Hopefully by then, both Germany and Ecuador have their place to the next round.
     
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  8. javer

    javer Member

    Sep 11, 2012
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Our mid field with out moi is going to be an issue. Vs Senegal both up front and mid field we couldn't compete physically. Who are we going to line up in midfield and up front to tackle head on an African defense? Campana ain't it. Enner and Rodriguez are going to struggle. I wish Jordy Caicedo would of been in form by now he could of been that physical presence up front.

    Franco and Denil are going to struggle. Denil needs to muscle up asap.
     
  9. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    We'll have to beat them from a distance because trying to body their defense is not going to be an easy task. Long distance shooting, we need Pervis, Caicedo, Hincapie, Franco, Plata, Angulo, and Minda ready to shoot early and often.

    Skillwise, it's somewhat even across both squads, but I'd give an African team the edge on speed and physicality. We can tactically outplay them if we can control the midfield and pass the ball around, but we need to shoot.
     
  10. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Vite, Castillo, and Patrik Mercado aren’t known for their physicality. Same with Franco and Alcivar. I remember Franco struggling against Senegal. The coaching staff will have to devise a game plan to attack Ivory Coast’s weaknesses.
     
  11. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Elias Legendre Quiñonez made his debut today. Against PSG no less. That U17 squad was loaded with talent. It’s unfortunate they didn’t qualify for the World Cup.
     
  12. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Michael Dacosta (Malcom’s brother) was on the bench for Bournemouth’s game against Chelsea.
     
  13. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Franco got absolutely manhandled by Senegal.
     
  14. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    We have Morocco and the Netherlands up next for friendlies. Those will be VERY nice tests for the squad. Hopefully we can: 1) stay healthy, 2) avoid reckless fouling, and 3) control the tempo of the matches and score with someone other than Enner.
     
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  15. \^the king^/

    \^the king^/ Member

    Jul 4, 2007
    wherevr da action @
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    I disagree and agree with several points from ya'll.

    Ivory Coast is closer to Senegal from 4 years ago than you think, they are current reigning Africa Cup champs. Theyre a team that has held many close games and havent given up many goals. Like usual their players are scattered amongst the top leagues in Europe. I wouldn't say they're a goal scoring machine but they dont seem dependant on just one player like Ecuador is. More importantly, they are physical and fast ==> Ecuador ALWAYS struggle when they can't exploit this aspect of their game. The team will need to keep the ball on the ground and be patient. There are 0 excuses to make the same errors that were made in 2022, we have top tier defenders who play important games week in and week out. Hincapie cant shove a man to the ground and cause a penalty, Pacho can't lose his man on a corner and conceded immediately after tying.

    Agreed Germany isnt the Germany from years past - but if Wirtz turns up they can be a tough team this summer.

    Curacao is Qatar, and Honduras all over again. They're going to go give up 9 points and plenty of goals. Which means a tie and win is an absolute vs Germany and Ivory Coast if we want to be top 2.

    The core of this squad would still only be 24/25 for this summer's showing. By contrast the stars from other teams are all 27+... it is imperative that this team can convince the world of its potential for a solid showing and contention in 2028 Copa America.
     
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  16. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Ederson Castillo from Liga being linked to Anderlecht, Bayern, Atlético de Madrid, and Manchester United.
     
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  17. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I'm anxious about the Ivorians because their strengths are essentially ours. We basically cancel each other out on speed and they'll definitely be MORE physical- agreed.

    But they ARE a goalscoring powerhouse in Africa despite the quality of their opponents being suspect. Their record speaks for itself: 10 games played, 8 wins, 2 draws, 0 losses. 25 goals scored, 0 goals conceded. That's crazy. Even if they played Seychelles and dumped 16 goals on them- that's some crazy consistency to focus on scoring. If we played a lower ranked squad, knowing what we know about our team, can we replicate such a feat? I doubt it.

    A total of 15 players have scored on their squad.
     
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  18. \^the king^/

    \^the king^/ Member

    Jul 4, 2007
    wherevr da action @
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    It's awesome, the youth players have really benefited from the buzz around the current guys.

    If we were ever able to secure a copa america we can probably establish a long term pipeline directly to the top 6 leagues in europe similar to Uruguay and colombia have been managing for decades.
     
  19. \^the king^/

    \^the king^/ Member

    Jul 4, 2007
    wherevr da action @
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    This x2. I am also remembering that even Jamaica gave us a hard game in the Copa America last summer, a lucky Hincapie center and very late 3rd goal had it looking more one sided than it actually was.
     
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  20. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    IDV is establishing a strong track record selling players to European teams. Moises, Hincapie, Pacho, and Ordońez have performed at a high level. Other players have been average to above average - Minda, Rodriguez, Medina, Paez. This has opened up opportunities to not just more IDV players but perhaps players from other teams. Liga, Aucas, and Orense have interesting young players. If given the opportunity I’m sure they could perform at high levels for European teams.
     
  21. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
     
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  22. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Isn't Preciado also an IDV product?

    I believe a kid from Aucas is set to sign and then get loaned by Bayern. Liga apparently had 1-2 kids they were about to ship off to Europe, too. As for Orense, I don't know about the quality of their "exports", but their academy has been praised for having nice and modern facilities.
     
  23. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Preciado also came from their youth setup. Before joining IDV he was with America de Quito. He made his professional debut with IDV.

    Liga has three interesting players - Castillo, Fricio Caicedo, and Kevin Pineda. They’ve actually done well selling players to Europe in recent years - Nilson Angulo, Denil Castillo, Oscar Zambrano, and Juanse Rodriguez.

    Orense has an interesting project and they do have some interesting players - Zambrano, Ortiz.
     
  24. javer

    javer Member

    Sep 11, 2012
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Orense is still in their early stages similar to Aucas or IDV years ago. Ariel Suarez, Eric Pluas and Oscar Quinonez have been the players they have sent aboard. They havent gotten much success yet but they can get there. They have a good amount of youth players called up to the youth national team recently so the talent pool is interesting.
     
  25. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Pluas was playing at a high level last season. I think he had a chance of being called up to the national team. He injured his knee and last I checked he hasn’t played in a competitive game since then. Another interesting player they have is Sergio Vasquez.
     

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