Ecuador NT (Post-World Cup)

Discussion in 'Ecuador - National Team' started by LDU4ever, Nov 29, 2022.

  1. javer

    javer Member

    Sep 11, 2012
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    I think we can play a mixed team and still pull results. Play a few games with out Moi, Pacho and Hincapie in starting XI test some guys from our bench in those positions.



    There a good amount of players I want to see play. Let's hope we see them in those games.
     
  2. Allan_Somewhere

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Moving forward we should keep Alan Franco as RB.

    His motor and technique makes a big difference. Not to mention he isn't one to get rattled by dirty fouls, if anything he turns it up when it happens.

    We now need to replace him in midfield.
     
  3. javer

    javer Member

    Sep 11, 2012
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Agreed on Franco. I don't think we need to replace him much in midfield. Vite and Caicedo alone where doing great. I think our last line up with a few tweaks can do really well.



    We should test more players tho to have a solid bench and alternate players. Juan Sebastián is definitely one to try. I would like to try Michael Carcelen as well.
     
  4. Allan_Somewhere

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    AC Milan
    I'd honestly love to give a run to Denil Castillo and Mercado to see how their skill set can be used.

    Its better to see where they fit now than last minute having them replace someone due to injury.
     
  5. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Caicedo scored on an absolute rocket of a shot. Too bad they dropped points because that win was so close...
     
  6. Allan_Somewhere

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Sarmiento had a really good debut with Cremonese.

    Hopefully he stays injury free and can last the season.
     
  7. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Hopefully he has a good season. He can be an interesting option for the NT.
     
  8. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Agreed. This is an auspicious start, and with some fortune, I think we can see him back in Beccacece's good (but highly flawed) graces.

    I'm still of the opinion that he should be sacked though.
     
  9. \^the king^/

    \^the king^/ Member

    Jul 4, 2007
    wherevr da action @
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Hincapie got his toe wet, with 5 minutes in the final Arsenal win over Atheltic Club.

    K Rod's team rocked PSV 3-1. I didnt watch it but it looks like he played full 90.

    Tomorrow we'll see Caicedo and Pacho.

    And Thurs. lets hope Ordonez is back in the starting 11.
     
  10. Allan_Somewhere

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    AC Milan
    I was tolerant of Beccacece until his recent statement saying Ecuador isn't a top team until they do this for 6-10 years.

    Buddy we've got back to back world cup appearances and improved our defense. Not to mention our team is still very young.

    Of course we're not contenders but we're also not pushovers. Having a coach be your biggest enemy really is something else.
     
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  11. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
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    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I'm gonna have to emphatically agree with you on this one. You're right.

    Beccacece's comments are not ones to be said out loud and almost always inopportune. So he wants to line up against a French or Portuguese squad and tell our players, "guys, know your role, they're elite, you're not. Let's sit this one out. Wait your turn."

    Give me a break.

    I'm sure in Beccacece's mind this all makes sense, but out loud, it sounds like absolute insanity- regardless of whether the theoretical level of each "elite" team is collectively higher based on mindset, pedigree, and actual level.

    How can we have a winners mindset if the guy spearheading the project is constantly trying to cut down everyone's legs? I'm sure Morocco wasn't billed as a Top-4 squad before the 2022 World Cup, and yet they knocked down a few giants to earn their semifinalist slot. You don't only have to be a top-10 squad to make a deep run, but you just have to be sharper and more effective on the day during a highly compressed tournament timeline. Hell, look at Peru in a few of the past Copa Americas...they weren't even a top-4 CONMEBOL qualifying team and they still managed to make it to a final. It takes a good coach, hungry players, efficient tactics, momentum, and a bit of luck.

    Beccacece's mindset, in contrast to the old Bolillo Gomez days of "venimos para aprender" back in 2002 is way more dangerous and toxic, because now our guys have untold ceiling, but we're hamstrung by a bonafide loser. I sincerely hope the FEF starts to tune his ass up, because this is just ludicrous. He needs to stop doing interviews or just GTFO.
     
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  12. Allan_Somewhere

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    AC Milan
    He's trying to set up an excuse in case he fails so he doesn't ruin any future jobs.

    But with that attitude I can see why Independiente kicked him out years ago. He's always afraid of taking the next big step.

    I'm sure he rubs the players the wrong way too because you can tell he's content with ties whereas the players are not.
     
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  13. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I think his comments alone would ruin any future jobs anywhere he considers an "elite" destination. He's such a debbie downer.

    This might be the first time in all the years I've watched Ecuadorian football where I hope the players actually rise up into mutiny to force him out. His demeanor, opinions, and media skills are ticking time bombs. VAMOS CON LA TRINCA!
     
  14. \^the king^/

    \^the king^/ Member

    Jul 4, 2007
    wherevr da action @
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Caicedo anda raro... tackles arent as sharp and his sprints are far and away as opposed to last year.

    He has been scoring goals and putting in shifts (+ an assist today), but he looks a little slow out there. Add to that the fact that we sat him 1 game, I'm thinking he has a nagging injury and Chelsea will just refuse to sit him. The result? The game he just played vs Bayern. Yikes

    Pacho looked solid vs Atalanta and his team put them away fairly easily.

    Onto Ordonez

    Vamos IDV y Liga!
     
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  15. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    He needs some rest. The CWC did a number on everyone. There was a limited pre season window and by the time the league kicked off, he was in betweening starting XI for Chelsea and then went to the WCQs, then returned as a starter in the last matches, and traveled to play today.

    I think he'll bounce back after a decent rest. Perhaps with more reason, it's better to let him sit out the next friendlies for Ecuador.
     
  16. Allan_Somewhere

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Apparently Chelsea are monitoring Deinner Ordonez and Joel Ordonez for CBs.

    It shouldn't have taken the Bayern match for them to realize their defense has always been shaky.
     
  17. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Deinner Ordońez turns 16 next month. It wouldn’t surprise me if he signs a pre contract with a team like Paez and Lerma did.
     
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  18. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Kendry scored today.

    Menos chongo, mas goles. That's what we need!
     
  19. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Leonardo Realpe scored too. Beccacece will keep calling up Arreaga tho.
     
  20. Allan_Somewhere

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    AC Milan
    The kid has a huge ceiling. He reminds me a lot of Hincapie in that he prefers to intercept instead of block (like Pacho).

    Paez has been doing good in France. He's been playing like a CM and it'll benefit him in the long run.
     
  21. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Deinner looks to use his size and strength. Piero’s main strengths are his anticipation and speed. We’ll have to see how he develops. The ceiling is high.
     
  22. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    IDV con la hazaña. They pull through in penalties. I thought they were dead in the water going into the match. Great performance.
     
  23. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Agreed. Considering how dismal the match was in Sangolqui, I was expecting the worst.

    Good comeback from them. For VEEEEERY long stretches of the game, they were clearly the superior squad. The penalties were solid except for Ibarra who had to add extra drama to the proceedings.

    Great win, and notch another semis visit for IDV.

    Tomorrow, I can only hope LDU can hang on. I think the squad is at full fitness. Fingers crossed.
     
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  24. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Liga is holding on for dear life right now. Hopefully they can keep Sao Paolo at bay.
     
  25. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Liga with the away goal. That should do it.
     

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