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Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by athletics68, Jan 28, 2010.
I like the trees at Buck Shaw. That's about it. Then again, the same could be said of Spartan.
any pics of the proposed practice (ph)acility (PPP, kinda like a SSS)
The practice field does not engage the option. They are leasing the 2+ acres from the city for $2,000 a month.
In the paperwork with the city, this is described as an "interim" training field, since it really can't be "permanent" until Wolff exercises the option for the land and gets shovels in the ground for the stadium.
The grand plan is to expand this training field to include several more, which the city would pay for from bond money already earmarked for sports fields. There is a dearth of fields in San Jose and not many places to put more. Since public money would be used there would be public access to the additional fields, but, the Quakes also hope to run a youth academy from the site.
So, if everything falls into place like planned, the Quakes will have the stadium, team headquarters, training grounds, and a youth academy all operating at the same great site, just a couple miles from downtown San Jose.
LOL.....considering I sold my little rinky dink 1460 sq ft home w/ a little bk yard for $800k, I know exactly what you mean........
That doesnt make sense for me either.
Why not design a 30,000 person stadium but only build half of it until theyre ready to build the rest?
And don't tell me "that doesnt happen" because I have countless example with pictures if youd like
I'd like to see pictures of such stadiums. I've never seen a stadium that would have 15k, that would be capable of being expanded to 30k and still be a good 15k stadium. But regardless there is no 30k SSS in MLS. Why plan for one when we've still got to grow into a 15k stadium.
what about like St. James' park? (pic shows new stand built aside old stand).
I wouldn't classify St. James as a park that was built smaller with the idea to expand later. They simply expanded the original stadium. You can do what they did there with any stadium design. And the results are a mixed bag anyway. Yes St. James is unique but it's the most lopsided stadium on Earth.
Motherwell would beg to differ.
Ok second most lopsided stadium...
The new training complex is apparently now officially named the Nutralite Training Center.
Thread titles should not be ambiguous. At first glance I thought there was a catastrophe at a training complex.
Come to think of it, "EarthQuakes" is a sick name. How can anyone root for natural disasters that kill people by the thousands? The Washington Bullets changed their named to "Wizards". "EarthQuakes" certainly has nostalgia roots, but it is a ridiculous name imho. Likewise for similar names like "Hurricanes".
Not at all. Earthquakes aren't natural disasters. They're part of the life giving process of our planet. No Earthquakes means the center of the Earth isn't molten anymore. No molten core, no life put quite simply.
No go back to New York and root for your energy drink.
I used to think "Red Bulls" was the worst name in MLS. After further review, I think that title should go "EarthQuakes". Red Bull only kills a few people each year, but earthquakes are unbelievable vehicles of destruction. Turning them into a "friendly" team name, is like what Walt Disney did with a mouse.
Congratulations on your training center and good luck on the stadium!
San Jose Earthquakes
Landon Donovan (2001-2004)
Ronnie Ekelund (2001-2004)
Ariel Graziani (2002)
Winners (2): 2001, 2003
MLS Supporters' Shield:
Winners (1): 2005
Winners (2): 2001, 2003
New York Red Bulls
Jozy Altidore (2006–2008)
Michael Bradley (2004–2005)
Antony de Ávila (1996–1997)
Youri Djorkaeff (2005–2006)
Roberto Donadoni (1996–1997)
Eddie Gaven (2003–2005)
Amado Guevara (2003–2006)
Tim Howard (1998–2003)
Eduardo Hurtado (1998–1999)
Alexi Lalas (1998)
Clint Mathis (2000–2003, 2007)
Lothar Matthäus (2000)
Tony Meola (1996–1998, 2005–2006)
Jaime Moreno (2003)
Roy Myers (1999–2001)
Eddie Pope (2003–2004)
Tab Ramos (1996–2002)
Sergio Galván Rey (2004–2005)
Claudio Reyna (2007–2008)
Wellington Sánchez (1998–1999)
Giovanni Savarese (1996–1998)
Markus Schopp (2006–2007)
Adolfo Valencia (2000–2001)
Dave van den Bergh (2007–2009)
Ronald Waterreus (2007)
Jonny Walker (2003–2004)
MLS Supporters' Shield:
Why leave out the Bulls' western conference championship or being MLS Cup runner-up? Does La Manga Cup mean nothing to you?
Because by the Bulls' winning the western conference championship or being MLS Cup runner-up does in fact mean nothing! The Quakes were Western Confernece Champions but those teams resulted in two MLS CUPS! With all their star name players, coaches and/or accolades, they won nada.........
La Manga Cup??? Are you kidding??????
Is that trophy in the new trophy case at Red Bull Park? Wow! Must be nice and rusty!
Here's a future world cup stadium.
Built to hold 25,000 for a decade, until the money was secured to buy the neighboring properties, will hold a bit over 40,000 in time for the world cup. I'm sure you can see what's missing. For MLS, you could have built a little less (under built the stand at the ends) to start at 15,000
This stadium, built in 1985, holds 45,000, but was planned to hold 120,000, just by extending the stands all the way around (although that plan will never happen, as the stadium has no permanent tenant)
My own picture
I've been in both stadium BTW.
No need to plan for 120,000, but it is easy enough to build something that could easily grow to 40,000.
This stadium is horrible! I can not stand stadium's with running track's.
They're horrible for the fan's. What a waste of money.
Both stadiums you show are exactly what the Quakes stadium is designed to be. Granted the numbers are lower but that's due to the Quakes stadium being tailored to what our fanbase needs. Right now we'd need to work to fill the 15k regularly. Once that happens I'm sure they'll revisit filling in the end of the planned design to expand the stadium to 18-20k. You talk about 40, but other than Seattle no MLS team is going to need 40k for a long time. Hell the Quakes in particular are still working toward pushing our average up to the 15k range like most of the league.
if i understand it correctly, the training complex at this point will consist of exactly one very nice (it is hoped) soccer field?
which, however, would be a definite improvement on the current situation, where they have to wait in line to use the field where they practice.
i guess that's what you call one little step at a time...
i hope the stadium eventually gets done.
i don't think they're in any great hurry though, as buck shaw is workable for now and in any case i don't believe the new design would be particularly splashy, or even that much bigger.
lew wolff seems cautious to begin with and with the recession i think he's happy to let this take as long as it will.
my hunch is that they'll get it done in the end, but don't expect them to break any speed limits.
There's not only a running track but then there's space between the track and the field and the track and the stands. That stadium is about as far from "good" as you can get.
Yes, at this point one very nice field. They said it would be built to the same quality they did at Buck Shaw when it was renovated. When they renovated Buck Shaw they also put in a brand new artificial turf field adjacent to it, so, they do have that type of surface to practice on when they play teams such as Seattle.