News: Dynamo Stadium Thread: Deal Reached

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  1. SonicDeathMonkey

    Atlanta United
    Jun 24, 2008
    Conyers, Ga.
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Dynamo Offered New Stadium By Private Ownership

    Wasn't there also some questions as to if they would be able to sell beer at games? There was such crap coming from both pro and con MLS Miami, I can't remember.
     
  2. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    Re: Dynamo Offered New Stadium By Private Ownership

    Although the Crew pay property tax, not on the land, but on the structure that sits on it. I only know that because they tried to triple it a few years after and Lamar Hunt withheld the payment. (It's kinda wild to try and re-value a depreciating asset like that.)
     
  3. bmantx

    bmantx Member

    Jun 11, 2008
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Dynamo Offered New Stadium By Private Ownership

    Meh, She doesn't carry much weight. I laughed at the county commsioners response in another story.....

    "But Harris County Precinct 3 Commissioner Steve Radack says the potential deal is none of Bellaire’s business, and Houston City Councilwoman Anne Clutterbuck said she would “love” to have the stadium in her district."
     
  4. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Dynamo Offered New Stadium By Private Ownership

    Exactly. The stadium isn't in Bellaire. It's a little bit near Bellaire, but not exactly next door. Frankly, I'm not sure that she even has a dog in the hunt.

    Yeah, she might be right about traffic and so on, but that to me is the downside to being the mayor of a city that is surrounded completely by the City of Houston.
     
  5. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Dynamo Offered New Stadium By Private Ownership

    Yep, it's all about operational control, not the legal ownership.
     
  6. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Dynamo Offered New Stadium By Private Ownership

    A smart mayor in her situation would encourage the development of hotels and other drinking/eating establishments to capture the sales tax revenue and new jobs that would be generated by such a development.
     
  7. fireman451

    fireman451 Member+

    Jun 26, 2002
    The Midwest
    Club:
    --other--
    Re: Dynamo Offered New Stadium By Private Ownership

    I think the Westpark location is a very good option if downtown doesn't work out. It would be a shame to see the project move from the downtown scene, but a positive to the economic areas off Westheimer near the Galleria and most likely the Kirby/Richmond/Weslayan/59 area as well.
     
  8. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Dynamo Offered New Stadium By Private Ownership

    The Crew don't own the land either, which is on State property.

    It holds up improving the parking lot, and the annual quarterhorse convention that sometimes would take up the parking lot and require some to take shuttles to the stadium.
     
  9. anderson

    anderson Member+

    Feb 28, 2002
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Dynamo Offered New Stadium By Private Ownership

    I agree completely. I've worked in the Galleria area for more than two years now and that whole larger area centered on 59/610 that includes stretches of Westpark, Richmond, the two freeways, and the main cross-streets has a lot of positive economic activity, as you point out. I also think as you do that development of that proposed stadium site would feed off, and into, all that activity quite well. I can see why the Harris County Commissioner and the City of Houston Council Member whose districts contain that site would be positive about it.

    And the Mayor of Bellaire has about as much say about what happens in the City of Houston as the Mayor of Mayberry.
     
  10. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Dynamo Offered New Stadium By Private Ownership

    But but, it's not downtown
     
  11. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Dynamo Offered New Stadium By Private Ownership

    But it will be connected to downtown via light rail and is a place that Houstonians are used to going. Does that count?
     
  12. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Re: Dynamo Offered New Stadium By Private Ownership

    TSU might still be interested in being a tenant at the new location.

    "Share" is not the word that should be used, however. TSU would be a tenant in any Dynamo Stadium. And the field surface will be grass.

    Plus, a lot of people think that that TSU was brought in as a political move to gain support from the City/County. This new location might not need that.

    And this is all very preliminary.
     
  13. fireman451

    fireman451 Member+

    Jun 26, 2002
    The Midwest
    Club:
    --other--
    Re: Dynamo Offered New Stadium By Private Ownership


    The TSU inclusion hasn't worked out so well for the Dynamo's efforts with your fine, fine county reps Lee y Garcia. I thought I remember TSU's involvement was very important other than politically, no money into the project and some special considerations for using the east side stadium project (is that correct?).

    If the Dyners move to the Galleria however, TSU would be treated like any other renter . . . which is probably out of their snack bracket, my opinion anyway.
     
  14. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Re: Dynamo Offered New Stadium By Private Ownership

    There was a small amount money for rent (a couple of million for 20 years rent) and game-day revenue like concessions would be kept by TSU. That was pretty much it.

    I would think that the rent would go up at the Galleria location.
     
  15. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Dynamo Offered New Stadium By Private Ownership

    Well, the thing about it is that Bellaire is far enough away that I'm not sure that a stadium at the Galleria would have any impact.

    Incidentally, as a native Houstonian, I think that this location would be even better than downtown, but that's my own personal opinion.
     
  16. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Re: Dynamo Offered New Stadium By Private Ownership

    The City of Bellaire actually borders this proposed Galleria area site. The site is a the top of this map just to left of the northernmost part of Bellaire.

    [​IMG]
     
  17. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Dynamo Offered New Stadium By Private Ownership

    Wow. I didn't know Bellaire came that far north.
     
  18. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Re: Dynamo Offered New Stadium By Private Ownership

    Neither did I until I saw this map.
     
  19. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    Re: Dynamo Offered New Stadium By Private Ownership

    No, it is second class because the roof doesn't go all the way around. However, since it has a roof on two sides it is much better than those 3rd class soccer stadiums Barcelona and Lyon play in.

    I'd love to know what kind of development won't increase traffic. Does she think putting office buildings, retail development, or houses will cause less traffic?
     
  20. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Dynamo Offered New Stadium By Private Ownership

    I was being sarcastic
     
  21. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Dynamo Offered New Stadium By Private Ownership

    That's quality sarcasm. Fresh from the mine.

    Proof positive that Politics is just a popularity contest
     
  22. Green and BLue

    Green and BLue Member+

    Seattle Sounders FC
    Nov 3, 2003
    Republic of Cascadia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Dynamo Offered New Stadium By Private Ownership

    So if this deal goes down, the Dynamo will be the Fresh Princes of (adjacent to) Bellaire.
     
  23. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Dynamo Offered New Stadium By Private Ownership

    So was I.
     
  24. Indiscretion

    Indiscretion Member

    Aug 6, 2007
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Dynamo Offered New Stadium By Private Ownership

    OMG....how did i miss this quality pun....someone rep this gentleman :p
     
  25. ChicagoFC (FireClub)

    Jan 25, 2009
    Logan Square
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Dynamo Offered New Stadium By Private Ownership

    Cindy Siegel is up to no good, and needs to stop making trouble in your neighborhood

    rep'd
     

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