Dynamo Player Transactions / Dynamo DP thread

Discussion in 'Houston Dynamo' started by el jefe2010, Aug 24, 2010.

  1. troutseth

    troutseth Member+

    Feb 1, 2006
    Houston, TX
    I have said this in the past, and while I won't argue Blu's opinion of anyone in particular; I think we should consider that AEG is not our problem on this particular issue. I fear the other two owners are tighter with the purse strings than AEG. Which is actually why I fear AEG selling - I don't want three cheap owners that are looking for a return on investment for a DP (because it doesn't happen unless you get Becks, Henry, or Blanco).
     
  2. toropug

    toropug BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 11, 2008
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    This is messed up. Do AEG own the stadium outright, or do the minor partners own some interest? If they do then the best solution would be for Brener/DLH to buy out the rest of the team. Maybe a 65/35 split. At least they would be pulling some stadium profits/naming rights/concession/luxury box/etc. on top of the teams income. I'm not sure who wants to buy a team with no stadium income. We would forever be a broke ass team!
     
  3. troutseth

    troutseth Member+

    Feb 1, 2006
    Houston, TX
    Whether AEG owns the whole thing or not, the team will not get a revenue stream from the stadium beyond the revenue share for their games. This is how it is setup for almost every professional team in the US. It is one of the reasons "teams" show a loss or just break even even if the ownership group is making money.
     
  4. flippin269

    flippin269 Member+

    Aug 3, 2003
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I disagree. We need DP who are still good enough to play for their national teams and are doing so, not players who no longer feel they are good enough to play for them.

    My criteria for saying "he's too old for MLS, bro" is if he's still a national team threat, or is looking for a "not so fast place to play". If he's looking for a not-so-fast place to play and it looking for a paycheck, I hear Qatar is a lovely place to visit...
     
  5. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We can be critical of AEG but I would use this analogy: when the Dynamo FO calls up AEG for an approval to spend serious dollars, either Leiwieke or a bean counter gives the approval/denial, no cash flow issues; with Brener/Golden Boy and another non-AEG owner, the FO may call up for an authorization to spend and get put on hold while the bank runs an Equifax credit score and FICO calculation before letting the money go out.

    If someone who buys AEGs stake is not well-capitalized enough to buy a share of the Dynamo Stadium LLC entity, we could be in for some long-term penny pinching unless they discover non-stadium sources of significant revenue.
     
  6. *rey*

    *rey* Member+

    Feb 22, 2006
    Houston
    you guys realize neither Drogba or his agent would be able to spot Houston on a map if you spotted him Galveston. the Dynamo is as foreign to him as Correcaminos UAT is to some of yous.
     
  7. The_Ponce

    The_Ponce Co-President of the United States of Dynamo

    Feb 21, 2011
    Houston, Texas, U.S.
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's only an ~8 hour drive to see a Correcaminos game. London to Houston is an 8 hour plane drive. Lol.
     
  8. jvilla07

    jvilla07 Member

    Oct 30, 2006
    Houston + NOLA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    So you're saying they are complete idiots.
    When I travel throughout the world people know of Houston despite not being a tourist or Euro player retirement destination.
     
  9. Blu N Houston

    Blu N Houston Member

    Apr 8, 2005
    In your head!
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Drogba is a pipe dream, but if he's on his way to LA then Ladycakes better be going to Club America because 4dp's ain't gonna fly. MLS will have to do some damage control to explain how the rich get richer and the Orangehead AEG stepchild gets the crumbs.
     
  10. jvilla07

    jvilla07 Member

    Oct 30, 2006
    Houston + NOLA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Becks would be leaving the team.
     
  11. *rey*

    *rey* Member+

    Feb 22, 2006
    Houston
    nope, not at all. you made that leap.

    just like people not knowing the Correcaminos doesn't make them an idiot either.

    but you work in oil and gas.

    outside of that industry (and there are a hell of a lot of other industries) Dallas is the most known Texas city. stupid show!
     
  12. DonJuego

    DonJuego Member+

    Aug 19, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I somehow believe that if AEG is talking to a top player about LAG they can also talk to him about Houston with some success. It's not like LA and NY are the only clubs to sign big name DPs.
     
  13. flippin269

    flippin269 Member+

    Aug 3, 2003
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think that's a fair statement. It'd be up to the ownership and Dynamo FO to educate them on the idea, just as AEG had to educate Beckham on the idea that MLS was a place that could help his career at the age of 31 instead of signing for another European team at that time.

    They have the money to make pipe dreams become shock-signings, and they have the market both in Houston and in the US to make that money back and then some. I'm sick of this idea that the LA Galaxy and RBNY are the "elite" teams in MLS because of their markets, when it's blatantly clear they're not even in the top five. It's just the names of their cities, and that's it. Their markets don't really care compared to many of the others, and their local media doesn't care that much either.
     
  14. brahmafutbol

    brahmafutbol Member+

    Jan 29, 2006
    East Bernard, Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Having been in LA during the MLS Cup, and getting KTLA on my Dish, I completely agree with this. Like I've said, outside of the people that go to their games (and there aren't even that many of those) nobody in LA cares about them. Seriously I've run into more ChivasUSA fans in LA than Galaxy fans.
     
  15. DonJuego

    DonJuego Member+

    Aug 19, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I think this is confusing two issues.
    1. Are we better off with AEG as an owner for getting a DP, investment etc.

    2. Could we get screwed if AEG sales their ownership stake, while keeping full ownership of the building. Thus making the Dynamo a tenant to another MLS team.

    On 1, I agree with you that their are advantages to having AEG as managing owner.

    On 2, I am very concerned about it.

    I don't see AEG having any reason to sell any of their interest in the venue -- at any price. Their principal business is running music venues -- not soccer teams. I don't think Brenner/ODLH own any of the building now and will never own any of it.
     
  16. Caddman

    Caddman Member+

    Aug 18, 1999
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Drogba signs with the Galaxy, I'll personally fly to LA to punch Phil Anschutz in the face. Ok, maybe not. While it would be nice to have someone with the reputation of Drogba, I just want guys who can play and fit our needs.
     
  17. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Please reread what I said.
    He IS still an the Ivorian radar. That was my point. Until MLS figures out why some will come here for a big paycheck but still have International call ups that overlap MLS league fixtures. Big money isn't the endall cure for these big name talents and Garber must learn that some sigings will not avoid the FIFA mandatory dates specifically every time they come back around leading up to the WC.
    Basically, guys like Drogba who appear to have MLS on their own radar will be paid to miss club duty, perhaps important club matches, all cuz NT duty is still expected of an Ivory Coast icon like him. I don't like my stud striker to miss the big Dallas game cuz our league plays on FIFA scheduled dates. Dates laid out years in advance.
     
  18. Caddman

    Caddman Member+

    Aug 18, 1999
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. DonJuego

    DonJuego Member+

    Aug 19, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With AEG and NYRB flashing around some big signings, I expect to see lots of references to the New World of MLS by agents and players that are in contract discussions in Europe.

    Often, there will be no genuine interest or contact between MLS and those players. MLS is flattered by the press and won't refute it. The player is just creating a stalking horse.

    I guess it is a step forward? I guess?
     
  20. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS, the back up date to the prom.

    Meh, it could be a lot worse.
     
  21. The_Ponce

    The_Ponce Co-President of the United States of Dynamo

    Feb 21, 2011
    Houston, Texas, U.S.
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We used to not even be a back up, so I welcome this...it gives us a chance to get lucky :D
     
  22. el jefe2010

    el jefe2010 Member

    May 7, 2010
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you were a corporation looking to buy the Dynamo, why on earth would you not make sure you got the revenue from the stadium? If AEG owns the stadium and the revenue it generates then they are completely capable of transferring that ownership. There is no way that the team gets sold without those rights being transferred. I'm certainly not a business expert but I would think that the stadium greatly increases the value of the team because of the revenue the stadium creates. AEG could charge more to potential suitors because of it.
     
  23. flippin269

    flippin269 Member+

    Aug 3, 2003
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, no, I understand what you're saying. I'm saying that if a guy like Drogba is missing club dates and big games because he is being called up by his national team, that it is GOOD! I WANT them to get called up! Country over club any day, and it's the job of the Dynamo or any club for that matter to have the depth on their team ready so that if someone gets called up, they have someone else there ready to go off the bench.

    I WANT guys like Davis, Cameron, Hall, etc to get called up. The better they are for the national team, the higher their stock. And the higher their stock, the more the club is worth while they are here.
     
  24. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We agree then.
    I just prefer to have my money go to our best players so they can do both and not miss any action while doing it.
    WCQ are way more important than MLS league matches. WCQ are way more important than Argentine Primera matches or Serie A matches, yet their FA's do something about it all by allowing the best players to shine in both arenas of competition.
    I'm not asking Garber to put a man on the moon, just don't sell MLS as this great destination for big name DP talent when not being so up front with everyone involved that all that money will go to waste a few league games a season cuz FIFA dates or the freakin' Cup itself is played at the same time Houston vs Dallas might be.
     
  25. The_Ponce

    The_Ponce Co-President of the United States of Dynamo

    Feb 21, 2011
    Houston, Texas, U.S.
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ...and considering we are down to ONE regular season Houston v. Dallas game...it makes it that much more important.
     

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