Duvan Zapata

Discussion in 'Colombians Abroad' started by Clenbuterol, Sep 19, 2011.

  1. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
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    Unfortunately not in Yellow for Colombia.
    But with better tactics and approach I agree he should be given a new chance.
     
  2. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
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    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I mean Duvan pressed a ton in Gasperini's system.

    I think Cordoba has benefited from two things:

    - Lorenzo giving Colombia a clear system of play, and leveraging a 10 within it
    - Not carrying the massive pressure Duvan had on his back. He just looked so overwhelmed by it at the end.
     
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  3. villus

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    Jun 5, 2008
    We were a disaster under Rueda, all of our attackers look infinitely better because we have a great system, we generate a ton of good chances and the atmosphere is good with a constant game plan.
     
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  4. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
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    True for the most part.
    But it was not tactics or system that affected Duvan's shot inaccuracies and misses that should have been buried.
    That is on him.
     
  5. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I think I read or heard the atmosphere at the time was pretty bad so perhaps that affected his mentality at the time because he is very prolific in Serie A

    I was convinced Duvan Zapata would have been on the decline by now but I was wrong
     
  6. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Immediately scored a goal in response to Inter's second goal despite being down a player.
     
  7. Froboy69

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    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
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    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  8. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Duvan the Brahma Bull!! That was quite a goal!
     
  9. Uzuriaga

    Uzuriaga Member+

    Feb 9, 2009
    Estocolmo
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia


    I guess Lorenzo thinks he's too much like Córdoba. If that is the reason he won't be called up. But maybe he's in better form and he certainly plays in a better league.
     
  10. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Given that Cordoba was actually scoring goals for us this year into the Copa America while scoring the same amount (4) in mere 12 matches, Cordoba has a better arugement.
     
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  11. Froboy69

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    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Being carried out on a stretcher; when he tried to do a Ronaldo chop, he awkwardly struck the ground and i think he over stressed something. :(
     
  12. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
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    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia


    Oh man that sucks so hard if true
     
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  13. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Damn….. there goes another decent option up top
     
  14. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Sucks for him, but it was clear that Lorenzo was never gonna call him, surely this solidifies his Colombia career is over.
     
  15. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Lol

    So who's next? Maybe James it's been a while since he's had a nice injury or Yerry
     
  16. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Jesus what is up with these recent injuries?
     
  17. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Uribe.
     
  18. Uzuriaga

    Uzuriaga Member+

    Feb 9, 2009
    Estocolmo
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Most injuries are of kids not used to the physicality in the european football. As with Cortes, Gomez, and others. That is obviously not the case with Zapata. The NT doesn't really loose anything since the likelyhood of him being called up was pretty low.
    However a huge loss for Torino since he was a consistent scorer. They would probably need to buy someone in january if they have any money. They don't really risk relegation but had a good enough team to be top 5-6 I think.
     
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  19. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
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    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
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    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    So unfair! What a massive come back he was making in Turin!
     
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  20. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    That's the end of his season. He can go hang out with Yerson or ask Yerry for tips on the best hospital bed to hang out at
     
  21. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    It is a combination of factors:

    1. These are top athletes pushing the limits of the human body. Going just a little harder could mean going over the top.
    2. Although there is less contact now, for the reason above, almost any contact means higher forces applied to a body already pushed to its limits.
    3. For elite players, the calendar is insane, leaving very little time for the body to recover fully. Some players are pushing near 70 games per season, meaning a game every 4 days (after vacations and preseason weeks are substracted). Add extensive traveling and preseason training, it is just a matter of time for an injury to happen.
     
  22. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
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    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Spot on. #3 is also crazy. The amount of games being played is over the top.
     
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  23. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Let me add a carve out:

    Clubs and players are also being more cautious about injuries and they rather sit them out a couple of weeks (specially around FIFA breaks).
     

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