Ajax did good business with reaching the EL. Panathinaikos did us a great favour by eliminating Lens, which means France, instead of having 7 teams now are left with 6! Sporting Braga did a, how is that called ..a remontada?...by preventing defeat and relegation to the Conf. League after being 2-0 down. That sucks, as they would have less points to gather with less matches in the Conf. League. 6. Nederland (54.900) 7. Portugal (50.316)
I feel like the draws are hard across the board for the Dutch sides (except for perhaps Ajax?) - not feeling good regarding the coefficient stuff.
I agree. Portuguese teams have started this season very well, with 10 wins and 2 draws during the qualifying rounds. The Benfica - Feyenoord and PSV - Sporting matches will be a critical for both the teams and the coefficient.
Thank you for warm welcoming! I believe I will have good time here as a football lover and a coefficient addict
14428 Oh boy. They changed the points earning with the new Swiss model format. This is the renewed points distribution on the coefficient list: more than ever, the pressure is on PSV and Feyenoord The coefficient list is very important for the Dutch clubs in Europe. This determines how many Champions League tickets the Netherlands can distribute among the clubs in the Eredivisie. With the new format of the European tournaments, the distribution of points on this list has also been overhauled. Here's what's changed and what that means for the points distribution. In recent years, there has been a lot of polonaise in the Netherlands when it comes to the coefficients. Partly due to Feyenoord's place in the final and AZ's semi-final place in the Conference League, the Netherlands has collected quite a few points in that ranking. With the new rules, that seems to be going to be a bit more difficult. The Champions League will be much more important in the new system. Getting far in the Conference League yields a lot less. Change in coefficient points In the group stage, nothing will change in terms of adding points. You still get the same number of points per match as before. Two points for a win, one for a draw and nothing for a loss. However, the points must be distributed among all participating teams in Europe. In the case of the Netherlands, this means by six. If someone wins, that club will get 0.333 points. Bonus points The bonus points, which the Netherlands mainly won on, will be distributed differently. That's because the group stage has become one big group. You will receive different points for each place on the ranking. However, the differences between the three European leagues are huge. The number of points must be divided by the number of clubs active in Europe of a country at the start. Whoever finishes first in the Champions League takes 12 coefficient points, in the Europa League the number 1 only takes half: 6 points. The League winner of the Conference League comes off even more sparsely. They only gets 4 points. For example, there is a difference of 8 points between the Champions League and the lowest level. As a result, the billions ball is more important than ever. Even after the competition phase, the differences remain. Those who qualify for the next round in the Champions League receive 1.5 points, in the Europa League 1 point and in the Conference League 0.5 points. The Champions League finalist can thus add 6 points, those from the Europa League only 4. With three clubs in the Europa League and two clubs in the Champions League, the Netherlands must pin its hopes on PSV and Feyenoord for the time being. They are in the league phase of the Champions League and can therefore rake in the most points. To illustrate: if one of the two teams finishes in the top 24, they will already take more points than the club that wins the Conference League.
14682 The level of football journalism has gone down the drain towards just clickbaiting and no substance. Headline in AD Sportwereld: Painful week for Dutch clubs: Portugal is fast approaching in coefficient rankings Results this round: Juventus 3 - 1 PSV Yildiz (21)----------------Saibari (90+3) McKennie (27) González (52) Sporting Portugal 2 - 0 OSC Lille Gyokeres (38) Red card: Gomes (40/2xg) Debast (65) FEYENOORD 0 - 4 Bayer Leverkusen -------------------------------------Wirtz (5,36) -------------------------------------Grimaldo (30) -------------------------------------Wellenreuther (44/ed) Rode Ster 1 - 2 Benfica Milson (86)--------------Aktürkoglu (9) -------------------------------- Kökcü (29) Are they really comparing the clubs we were defeated by at the same level as Red Star? And forget Sporting was helped by a whole half against 10 men? If we don't win against the likes of Red Star AND Benfica beats clubs of the Leverkusen grade, yup then we're in trouble. But this kind of alarmist journalism is kind of them expecting us to beat both Juve and Leverkusen. How imbecil can one get?
The matches that really matter in the coefficient race are bolded and the ones crucial red bolded Feyenoord CL schedule: Feyenoord - Bayer Leverkusen: donderdag 19 september, 18.45 uur Girona - Feyenoord: woensdag 2 oktober, 18.45 uur Benfica - Feyenoord: woensdag 23 oktober, 21.00 uur Feyenoord - RB Salzburg: woensdag 6 november, 21.00 uur Manchester City - Feyenoord: dinsdag 26 november, 21.00 uur Feyenoord - Sparta Praag: woensdag 11 december, 21.00 uur Feyenoord - Bayern München: woensdag 22 januari 2025, 21.00 uur Lille OSC - Feyenoord: woensdag 29 januari 2025, 21.00 uur PSV CL schedule: Juventus - PSV: dinsdag 17 september, 18.45 uur PSV - Sporting CP: dinsdag 1 oktober, 21.00 uur PSG - PSV: dinsdag 22 oktober, 21.00 uur PSV - Girona: dinsdag 5 november, 18.45 uur PSV - Shakhtar Donetsk: woensdag 27 november, 21.00 uur Stade Brest - PSV: dinsdag 10 december, 21.00 uur Rode Ster Belgrado - PSV: dinsdag 21 januari 2025, 21.00 uur PSV - Liverpool: woensdag 29 januari 2025, 21.00 uur Ajax EL schedule: UEL, S1: Ajax - Besiktas, donderdag 26 september 21:00 uur UEL, S2: Slavia Praag - Ajax, donderdag 3 oktober 18:45 uur UEL, S3: Qarabag - Ajax, donderdag 24 oktober 18:45 uur UEL, S4: Ajax - Maccabi Tel Aviv, donderdag 7 november 21:00 uur UEL, S5: Real Sociedad - Ajax, 28 november 21:00 uur UEL, S6: Ajax - SS Lazio, 12 december 21:00 uur UEL, S7 :RFS - Ajax 23-jan 21.00 uur UEL, S8: Ajax – Galatasaray 30-jan 21.00 uur AZ EL Schedule: UEL, S 1 AZ - Elfsborg 25-sep 18.45 uur UEL, S 2 Athletic Club - AZ 3-okt 21.00 uur UEL, S 3 Tottenham Hotspur – AZ 24-okt 21.00 uur UEL, S 4 AZ – Fenerbahçe 7-nov 21.00 uur UEL, S 5 AZ – Galatasaray 28-nov 18.45 uur UEL, S 6 Ludogorets - AZ 12-dec 18.45 uur UEL, S 7 AZ – AS Roma 23-jan 18.45 uur UEL, S 8 Ferencváros – AZ 30-jan 21.00 uur These are the must have a good result matches.
A number of Turkyie clubs for AZ and Ajax!!! Let's hope Farioli and Martens get their teams prepared. Who do Twente play? We are also done in by not having anyone in the Conference league this season. Dutch league has to do better than just the top five. Even smaller Portuguese teams seem to show up to play in Europe.
Completely forgot them: UEL, S 1 Woensdag Manchester United - FC Twente 25-sep 21.00 uur UEL, S 2 Donderdag FC Twente - Fenerbahçe 3-okt 21.00 uur UEL, S 3 Donderdag FC Twente - Lazio 24-okt 21.00 uur UEL, S 4 Donderdag OGC Nice - FC Twente 7-nov 18.45 uur UEL, S 5 Donderdag FC Twente - Union Sint-Gillis 28-nov 21.00 uur UEL, S 6 Donderdag Olympiakos - FC Twente 12-dec 18.45 uur UEL, S 7 Donderdag Malmö FF - FC Twente 23-jan 18.45 uur UEL, S 8 Donderdag FC Twente - Besiktas 30-jan 21.00 uur
Twente too has two Turkish clubs to fight, Fener and Besiktas. This EL stage is like an extension of the Orange Squad vs Turkey Euro 2024 round.
15018 Bloody limit. Thanks, but no thanks to Lijnders with Red Bull and Bizot at Brest. Lijnders got himself embarrased by 13th spot dwelling Brest with their Dutch goalie Bizot. Would/should have been a coefficient matchpoint in our quest (yeah .. jeah I know) to overtake France.
15634 This week a coefficient battle in upwards and downwards perspective vs PSG and Benfica. The Netherlands and Portugal turn it into an intense coefficient thriller. This midweek, the battle continues with Benfica - Feyenoord, among others. WHY THE NETHERLANDS REMAINS SIXTH Lead is still generous Now that a quarter of the league phase is over, the Netherlands cherishes a margin of 3,550 points in the 2020-25 cycle. That's still pretty comfortable. Portugal will take 0.4 points for each win, while a draw will lead to 0.2 points. For the Netherlands, those scores are slightly lower - because the Eredivisie simply had more clubs at the start - with 0.33 points per win and 0.17 points for each draw. Portugal can normally only make up for its short-term deficit if almost everything falls into place, as it did with the Netherlands in the 2021/22 season, or if the Eredivisie experiences a total collapse. Of course, if we look at the longer term, defending sixth place will be a difficult matter. Especially since that rock-solid 2021/22 season won't count anymore in a few years. So hoping for a surprise week in Paris and Lissabon.
15749 Great coefficient evening for the Netherlands The Netherlands has received a significant boost on the coefficient list. Feyenoord's victory over Benfica took the full spoils on Wednesday evening, while things for Portugal went badly wrong. Feyenoord's victory over Benfica comes at a very opportune time, as the Portuguese were on the rise. Until Wednesday, the country was the best performing country on the UEFA list, but Portugal has lost that first spot to England after Wednesday evening. Not only did things go wrong for Benfica, earlier in the evening Braga lost to FK Bodø/Glimt in the Europa League. That was a good harbinger of things to come in Lisbon. The game between Benfica and Feyenoord has already been renamed the 0.733 points game, instead of the traditional six-point game. Not only does Feyenoord take 0.333 points for the coefficient of the Netherlands because of the win, Portugal is deprived of 0.4 points by the defeat of Benfica. Let's hope for more this thursday, although the opponents are tough.
15826 Demmit. Feyenoord's victory over Benfica on it's own has made the coefficient week of the Netherlands a success. Despite this, Portugal caught up again. We take stock after the third round of European matches. The Eredivisie delegation had a tough week ahead of them on paper, but the harvest of five points (two times two points for a win and one for a draw) is worth it, despite the losses of AZ and FC Twente on Thursday. Divided by six (due to the number of clubs at the start of this season) that means a weekly coefficient of 0.83. Portugal achieved a coefficient of 1.2 points. The Primeira Liga only has to divide each result by five, which makes a difference. Benfica's loss was painful for the Primeira Liga and Sporting Braga's home defeat to Bodø/Glimt in the Europa League on Wednesday also hit hard. On the other hand, there were victories for Sporting Portugal, FC Porto and Vitória Guimarães in the Champions League, Europa League and Conference League respectively. So it's a bit sour that Portugal still reduced its deficit slightly despite the perfect Wednesday, but given the severity of the program, the damage to the Eredivisie could have been even greater. For example, number six Netherlands cherishes a lead of more than three points on Portugal. If the Eredivisie keeps that margin intact, at least two teams will also be allowed to enter the Champions League directly in the 2026/27 season.
1908.nl posted the following info regarding coefficients. Standings club coefficient Dutch clubs season 2024/2025: 1. Feyenoord: 10,000 2. PSV: 8,000 3. Ajax: 5,000 4. AZ: 3,000 (2,000) 5. FC Twente: 3,000 (2,000) 6. Go Ahead Eagles: 1,500 Individual contribution of Dutch clubs to the country coefficient ranking based on the past five seasons: 1. PSV: 14,534 2. Feyenoord: 13,566 3. Ajax: 13,467 4. AZ: 11,100 5. Vitesse: 2,800 6. FC Twente: 1,617 7. Willem II: 0.400 8. Go Ahead Eagles: 0.083
In the coefficient duel with Portugal, the still sixth-ranked Netherlands handed out an uppercut on Wednesday. The timing of the Feyenoord win in Lisbon was sublime, as the Primeira Liga is having a great season. About the fierce battle for two fixed Champions League tickets. It had been a while since the Netherlands had such a positive coefficient evening as Wednesday. In the evening, rival Portugal did extremely bad business due to the Europa League loss of Sporting Braga against FK Bodø/Glimt, which previously floored FC Porto. If the Netherlands stays in sixth place, flowers should be sent to Northern Norway. Later in the evening, Feyenoord recorded a wonderful win at Benfica in a direct coefficient confrontation. Unfortunately, the party was not continued on Thursday due to the losses of AZ and FC Twente and the victories of FC Porto and Vitória Guimarães. Ajax kept the honour high on this day. The weekly coefficient of the Netherlands was 0.83 points, slightly less than Portugal's 1.2 points. For example, the Eredivisie still has a nice margin of more than three points.
16229 Coefficient battle: this is the program of the Portuguese clubs in Europe The Netherlands and Portugal are engaged in a compelling battle for sixth place in the European coefficient rankings this season. Sporting Portugal is still unbeaten this season and only dropped a stitch against PSV (1-1). In the league, the team of departing coach Rúben Amorim is still sovereign and has only conceded three goals in ten matches. The other two Champions League matches this season, Sporting won consecutively against LOSC Lille (2-0) and Sturm Graz (0-2). For Sporting, the biggest test is by far on Tuesday evening when the champion of England visits Lisbon. Benfica also faces a pretty tough task in the Champions League this week. After a narrow win at Farense (1-2) last week with Vangelis Pavlidis as the matchwinner, an away game at Bayern Munich awaits. Benfica won against Atlético Madrid and Red Star Belgrade in the Champions League, but two weeks ago went down against Feyenoord (1-3). FC Porto will visit Lazio on Thursday in the Europa League, which two weeks ago defeated FC Twente in Enschede (0-2). Porto won nine out of ten games in the Portuguese league and is on four points after three games in the Europa League. Lazio is the leader in the Europa League standings. Only Tottenham Hotspur and Anderlecht are also without a loss of points. SC Braga has three points after three matches in the Europa League. Thursday's opponent, Oscar Hiljemark's IF Elfsborg (former PSV), also collected three points. In the Portuguese league, Braga is fourth and won 1-2 at Arouca on Sunday, thanks in part to a goal by another former PSV player, Armindo Bruma. The fifth and final team from Portugal to participate in a European competition is Vitória Guimarães, the current number six of the Primeira Liga. With former Ajax goalkeeper Bruno Varela under the bar, the club from Guimarães is preparing for a home game against the Czech Mlada Boleslav in the Conference League. The home side seem to be favourites as they have won twice before, while Mlada have lost twice.
Those look like potentially a lot of dropped points for the Portugese clubs. But watch Sporting win to play up the lore of their departing manager every further.