DUH new study says 95% of americans had premarital sex

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Dolemite, Dec 19, 2006.

  1. Dolemite

    Dolemite Member+

    Apr 2, 2001
    East Bay, Ca
  2. HerthaBerwyn

    HerthaBerwyn Member+

    May 24, 2003
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    There have been vast racts of history in which abstinance wasnt considered a virtue or a norm.

    All of this is just Victorian boo-boo-Jee-Bee.
     
  3. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
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    The key point, IMHO:

    "Finer said the likelihood of Americans having sex before marriage has remained stable since the 1950s, though people now wait longer to get married and thus are sexually active as singles for extensive periods."

    So all this supposed decline in values and morals boils down to this--people are single longer.

    I'd like to think this might shut a few pompous Puritans up. But I doubt it. I smell stern lectures on what a country of moral degenerates we are. :rolleyes:
     
  4. PsychedelicCeltic

    PsychedelicCeltic New Member

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  5. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
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    And at the other end of the spectrum, many theorize the increasing rates of divorce can be tied to the hightening life expectancy. Couples have to put up with each other for 30 years longer than they use to.
     
  6. The Gribbler

    The Gribbler Member

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    That's a very possible reason, if not one of the major in my book.
     
  7. ratdog

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    More likely, just ugly.
     
  8. Mountainia

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    Funny. I read this in the Washington Post:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/19/AR2006121901274.html

    Oh. I see the difference. The Post figure leaves out 44-year-old virgins.

    Wasn't that a movie with Steve Carrell?
     
  9. jmartin1966

    jmartin1966 Member+

    Jun 13, 2004
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    Yeah, I was thinking 95% is kind of low.
     
  10. NoodlesMacintosh

    NoodlesMacintosh New Member

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    Meh. If 95% of the country did something you fundamentally disagreed with, you'd take a different tone. When you're fine with the world, it all seems natural and inevitable. When you're not, you get all uppity and activist. You see this as a declaration of reality; others see it as a declaration of reality, a reality that needs to be changed.

    Whatever.
     
  11. p0rn0frea|<

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    Jul 5, 2005
    I don't doubt that Utah's contribution to the 5% asexual population is immense. So all is good.
     
  12. NoodlesMacintosh

    NoodlesMacintosh New Member

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    Cute, but I wasn't reacting to the statistic (which is wholly unsurprising) but rather Dolemite's statement.
     
  13. Ombak

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    Apr 19, 1999
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    So you think, despite evidence to the contrary, that abstinence-only programs are a good idea?

    I have no problem with individuals choosing to behave in one way. But why impose that behavior on others when it only works for a tiny segment of the population?
     
  14. Dolemite

    Dolemite Member+

    Apr 2, 2001
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    go ahead and try to change it. you can try to move a mountain as well if it makes you feel better. but please don't piss away government tax revenue on programs (ie abstinence ONLY sex education) that are destined to fail. that's all i'm saying.
     
  15. spejic

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    Is there anything that 95% of Americans agree with? Any activity or philosophy or political position? I really don't think you will find any, except for having sex when the opportunity comes around and not waiting for marriage. Fighting against this isn't like trying to convince people of following a new political or science paradigm - it's trying to make people give up something that's just a little lower in importance than breathing. And any such attempt is absolutely doomed to failure in any free society.
     
  16. Pathogen

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    My first lay was a Mormon girl...a very hot Mormon girl that brought a lot of experience to the table. Ah memories...
     
  17. Foosinho

    Foosinho New Member

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    Mine wasn't Mormon, but she was a preacher's daughter.
     
  18. Pathogen

    Pathogen Member

    Jul 19, 2004
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    Bishop's daughter...'bout same thing.
     
  19. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

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    I'll bite - when was this, exactly?
     
  20. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

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    The brief reign of emperor caligula comes to mind. :D

    This is another debate that is unfortunately colored by how polarized we are these days.

    On the one side, people preach absolute abstinence and the statistics prove that this is folly and will only lead to bad decisions, preganancies and disease for those kids who start out with good intentions and get caught up in the "moment" in the back seat of a Prius (does a prius even have a back seat? In college, I had a 76 Impala with a back seat big enough to handle multiple parties :D ).

    On the other side, as a parent, I have a hard time laying out a selection of french ticklers and "ribbed for your pleasure" protection and telling my kids to go to town.

    What is wrong with teaching kids that they should make all of their decisions in advance when they are sober and rational, that abstinence is a great short term policy and that if they make a decision together with their girlfriend or boyfriend, then these are the things that you HAVE to do to keep yourselves safe and baby-free.
     
  21. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    Aren't Mormons the ones that are allowed to do whatever they want pre-marriage as long as it isn't with another Mormon, so they end up screwing "heathens" like rabbits and just don't have sex with another Mormon until marriage?? I think the Amish are like that too. I really should make a trip to Lancaster County one of these days.

    As for the 5%, my guess is that they were technical virgins.
     
  22. Wingtips1

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    is it just me, or does anybody else think this study was a waste of our taxpayers money?
     
  23. The Gribbler

    The Gribbler Member

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    Maybe not. Any lawmaker looking to back federally sponsored sex education & resources for such can use these numbers to prove their point.
     
  24. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

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    It was conducted by a private think tank
     
  25. Pathogen

    Pathogen Member

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    Nope. I nailed Mormons, Athiests, Heathens, etc. all before I got married. They're pretty strict about no funny business before marriage regardless of your partner. It's what got me bounced out of the MTC, and all I did was get to second base after I got my "orders" and did the whole interview thing. I could have kept my mouth shut and completed a mission. But then I would have never been sent home early and run into my wife. How's that for serendipity. Oh, I nailed her before we got married, too.
     

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