Dual nationals who could suit up for the US.

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by juvechelsea, Oct 26, 2018.

  1. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    why the hell are we comparing a 26 yo colaship player to much younger first division players?
     
  2. hobbes

    hobbes Member

    Jul 26, 1999
    regina, saskatchewan
    My million dollar question if I'm Luca Koleosho is what formation does Poch want to play? Because the most noticeable move in his first camp was really pushing Jedi Robinson forward. But what happens when Dest is healthy? As an outsider (Canadian), Dest is a player that scares me and who I expect to start once he's healthy. Who knows what the future holds, but 3-4-3 makes a lot of sense, right? And even if it's a hybrid back-4/back-3 with Jedi bombing forward in possession that does limit the need/role of an attacking winger. In either case, Koleosho is fighting with two of Pulisic, Weah, Reyna, and Aaronson to get on the pitch at all... if Poch doesn't play a 4-2-3-1, Koleosho is going to have a hard time getting a lot of playing time as it stands IMO.

    With Canada, I think we're pretty married to Davies at LB at this point, which opens up space for Koleosho to start. Buchanan has been in poor form post-World Cup (and a broken leg and limited playing time in Milan aren't helping), but I think we need to back Buchanan to come good because he's just a better player than the other options. Shaffelburg, Ahmed, Millar, Laryea and Sigur are all options on the wings (and Buchanan can play either side), but for me Koleosho has a pretty good chance at walking into the starting XI.

    So if it were about the best opportunity to play, I think Canada makes sense. But if he had the options, I don't really know why he wouldn't play for the US. I can't know his thoughts, but it certainly seems the obvious choice.

    FWIW there was a rumour up here that Herdman offered Koleosho a spot on the 2022 World Cup roster if he committed. Don't know if that's true or not, but Herdman liked him early.
     
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  3. psnotyours

    psnotyours Member

    Bvb
    United States
    Mar 8, 2023
    He needs to be careful with playing with Italy U21. Suppose Luca continues to play with Italy U21 when he is 21 or older. Luca could be a permanent cap tie to Italy.
     
  4. InterUSMNT

    InterUSMNT Member

    Inter Miami
    United States
    Jan 30, 2023

    I believe this abt Herdman. Koleosho accepted a full senior squad call-up, but if memory serves correct neither of those two matches were every played. I on't see why he would have accepted that call-up (while playing coy with the USMNT), if he wasn't prepared to fully commit to Canada.

    If he is a superstitious guy, perhaps he took those canceled matches as a bad omen and started rethinking things haha.
     
  5. hobbes

    hobbes Member

    Jul 26, 1999
    regina, saskatchewan
    No, I think we always knew Koleosho wasn't going to play in that window. It was a chance to come in, let him meet everyone, kick the tires as it were.... that was the window where the friendly with Iran was cancelled in light of the Flight 752 bombing and then the players went on strike instead playing the last-minute make-up match against Panama. They did play their Nations League match v Curacao, but Koleosho was never going to play in that match and get provisionally cap-tied and everything I heard made it sound like he wasn't going to actually play v Panama. He was just there to be in camp. And he picked a doozy for his first experience.
     
  6. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Youth caps never permanently cap-tie a player, even at the U23 level. You still have a one-time switch available. It's different if he starts playing for the senior national team in addition to playing for the youth teams.
     
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  7. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    shaffy is a baller. That dude has our number too . Rich man’s break shea , Cade Cowell tendencies
     
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  8. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah... he is underrated. His pace is legit and he crosses and shoots very well.
     
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  9. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also Milan first goal came off pulisic corner……. After all these years, has he finally become a reliable corner kick option? It seems so……
     
  10. InterUSMNT

    InterUSMNT Member

    Inter Miami
    United States
    Jan 30, 2023
    still prefer Reyna to take corners (when both are actually healthy on the field together lol)
     
  11. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He has been money on corners of late. Oddly enough, last season he was killing it with out-swingers for a time but this season he has the whip and dip on the in-swingers that seem to be dotting that near post danger area. He deserves credit for sure.
     
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  12. psnotyours

    psnotyours Member

    Bvb
    United States
    Mar 8, 2023
    Cade Cowell is a good player but he is not playing in an amazing league. Liga MX is a good level but not a top level.
     
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  13. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wrote this about Shaffy. He plays in the MLS and is better than Cowell by a significant margin IMO. Overall, we have never had a USMNT pool w/ club resumes that were even close to what they are now but nearly across the board our players underwhelm when wearing the US crest. The thing I like about Canada is that their players seem to over-perform for their NT. On paper we should clearly be the best NT in CONCACAF but we have not played like that since the group stage of the WC.
     
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  14. InterUSMNT

    InterUSMNT Member

    Inter Miami
    United States
    Jan 30, 2023
    Anyone know when Japan's roster drops?

    Anyone know when the USMNT roster drops?

    Holding out for this mystery, coveted Dual-Nat, but I heard Edgar already dismissed the rumor as BS...
     
  15. topshellf

    topshellf New Member

    Vermont Green FC
    United States
    May 28, 2024
    Tomorrow most likely for usmnt, but def before Saturday, as for japan no clue
     
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  16. NYdog

    NYdog Member

    United States
    Nov 6, 2024
    United States
    Midnight EST if you are in the East Coast or 11/7 2pm in Japan. I'm in the East Coast, so in about two hours.
     
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  17. InterUSMNT

    InterUSMNT Member

    Inter Miami
    United States
    Jan 30, 2023
    OH WOW. So we will have a Chase update VERY soon.
     
  18. topshellf

    topshellf New Member

    Vermont Green FC
    United States
    May 28, 2024
    I'll be asleep, but dear god please just give us a few more months
     
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  19. InterUSMNT

    InterUSMNT Member

    Inter Miami
    United States
    Jan 30, 2023
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  20. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Poch has talked to Nathaniel Brown I'm sure he's also talked to Chase and Koleosho, given they are far more "on the radar"... wonder who else he's talked to?
     
  21. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bet hes talked to Messi, Mbappe, and Neymar too honestly. Not about national team recruiting, but talking to them, which is still probably pretty cool
     
  22. NYdog

    NYdog Member

    United States
    Nov 6, 2024
    United States
    Chase not in Japan squad
     
  23. InterUSMNT

    InterUSMNT Member

    Inter Miami
    United States
    Jan 30, 2023
    20 yr Japanese American Center-Back from VfB Stuttgart with 500 mins played in the Bundesliga and 200 mins played in the Champions League. 14 appearances this season for VfB Stuttgart.

    Japan are missing their two best defenders in Hiroki Ito and Takehiro Tomiyasu as well

     
  24. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like dual nats are back on the menu boys

    "Anrie Chase turned down a Japan senior team call-up for the second straight camp"

     
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  25. InterUSMNT

    InterUSMNT Member

    Inter Miami
    United States
    Jan 30, 2023
    purposeful or non-intended LOTR quote? lol. either way
     

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