Dual nationals who could suit up for the US.

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by juvechelsea, Oct 26, 2018.

  1. psnotyours

    psnotyours Member

    Bvb
    United States
    Mar 8, 2023
    I think we will get him at the end of the day. The same goes for many dual nats.
     
  2. psnotyours

    psnotyours Member

    Bvb
    United States
    Mar 8, 2023
    Why? What has he said that changed your mind?
     
  3. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    #6428 Clint Eastwood, Nov 4, 2024
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    Who do you think Edgar Moreno is?
    How is he involved in the sport?
    There is literally nothing he says that indicates he has any kind of sources or insider knowledge of anything whatsoever.

    I find it amazing how people pick up some random twitter posters and decide that they're the gospel for information. There's a multitidue of these guys. If its not Edgar Moreno (if its his real name), then its some other guy. My favorite was Charlie Kennan. A person who didn't actually exist.

    How an active Air Force serviceman became the victim of a USMNT catfishing scandal

    It's as if I started a twitter feed and started behaving as if I have insider information.

    I don't get it. I really don't get it.

    If some rando twitter poster keeps saying things that nobody in the mainstream soccer media is saying, then I'm skeptical. Its like the QAnon of US soccer. These twitter guys who keep implying that they know "what's really going on" behind the scenes.
     
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  4. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bayen "have Koleosho on their list" according to an actually reliable source



    Some skepticism but Koleosho was quite good last season before his injury so who knows

    1853497545118589339 is not a valid tweet id


     
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  5. OWN(yewu)ED

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    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So if Luca does choose us, does that roll Pulisic out right, or does Luca roll out right? Feels liek both would need to be on the field at same time.
     
  6. Ghost

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    Sep 5, 2001
    If Kokeosho goes to Bayern, I doubt we'll ever see him.
     
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  7. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member+

    Nov 30, 2016
    Club:
    Atlanta
    I doubt he is anywhere near going to Bayern. Haji is more productive by a wide amount in the Championship. Where are these "ton of goals" that they speak of?
     
  8. OWN(yewu)ED

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    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Sargent could be healthy, he would have been a premier league player this season (via purchase). Haji Wright is going to have a second good year in a row. He Will be a premier league player next year. You dont have two "well above average" years, stay healthy, and stay in the Championship. Not in this market.
     
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  9. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member+

    Nov 30, 2016
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Again Haji is more productive than Luca. Weah is playing well. Luca would be a depth piece.
     
  10. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    Production at different clubs doesn't really tell the whole story for players. I've seen Wright play with the nats enough to know I'd like to be able to see some other people as well.
     
  11. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member+

    Nov 30, 2016
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Were you watching the last time we played Jamaica in 2024 when he came off the bench and scored two goals for us to win in stoppage time?
     
  12. psnotyours

    psnotyours Member

    Bvb
    United States
    Mar 8, 2023
    Does Poch see Wright as a CF or winger? Is Pulisic a winger or a CAM?
     
  13. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member+

    Nov 30, 2016
    Club:
    Atlanta
    As far as Haji is concerned his hands may be tied this window because of injuries toe Josh and Flo. Pulisic will be played where ever Poch thinks he can get the best out of him and the team.
     
  14. psnotyours

    psnotyours Member

    Bvb
    United States
    Mar 8, 2023
    The biggest difference is that people have talked to him in real life, and we can all hear his voice in an X-space.

    You can question his sources and he will not always be 100% accurate but there are things that he has said that were true.
     
  15. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Luca Koleosho only just turned 20.
    And we know he has physical tools. Needs to turn tools into consistent production.

    I take a story like that with a grain of salt, but its also not the first time we've seen him connected to a big club by a "reputable reporter."

    Michael Olise is now at Bayern.
    What was Michael Olise doing as a 20 year old?
    He had just moved from Reading to Crystal Palace.
     
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  16. psnotyours

    psnotyours Member

    Bvb
    United States
    Mar 8, 2023
    As of right now if Haji is a winger then Luca Koleosho is a depth player but if Haji is a CF and Pulisic is a CAM then Luca would start.
     
  17. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    #6442 Clint Eastwood, Nov 5, 2024
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    Let's remember that Haji Wright was in the wilderness for years.
    Did almost nothing in Holland for VVV Venlo when he was older than Koleosho is now.
    [Also a dual-national of course. Liberia if my memory serves me correctly.]

    Development isn't linear sometimes.
    There are players who are great right at the off. For others the path is much more meandering.
    I'm not SO bothered by what Koleosho is doing. His injury was pretty significant. Sometimes a player is back, but not BACK. If you know what I mean.

    And yes, if he was flying on all cylinders and moving to Bayern...........our chances of convincing him to make a one-time switch from Italy probably do decline precipitously.
     
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  18. don Lamb

    don Lamb Member+

    mine
    United States
    Aug 31, 2017
    The hype around Koleosho is a classic case of propping up a dual national. In reality, he's in the same tier of the pool as Cowell and Paredes, but the dual national intrigue turns him into a starter somehow.
     
  19. InterUSMNT

    InterUSMNT New Member

    Inter Miami
    United States
    Jan 30, 2023
    The more I see of him, the more I start to think this as well. ATST, as we get closer to this mystery being revealed, I am starting to think it is Koleosho and not Chase. I realize that Poch actually already has a relationship with him from Southhampton days, and Tac said on his channel that Poch recently met with Koleosho. I think he's the mystery "senior player who filed a OTS"
     
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  20. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
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    FC Dallas
    #6445 Clint Eastwood, Nov 5, 2024
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    Koleosho could turn into something, or he could not turn into something. He's a lottery ticket, like a lot of these prospects are. Prospect being a latin word meaning "hasn't really done squat yet."

    He's a fall 2004. if he was on the roster for the recent Mexico game, he'd have been the youngest player by two years (because Pepi was sent back to Holland).

    In fact, very few players younger than him currently have caps. There's Esmir, who is no longer in the pool. And Wiley, who is a couple months younger than Luca. That's it I believe. Could be wrong. We've had some young players called in that don't have caps (like Kochen).

    If Poch and our scouts want him, then go for it. Give him a look.
     
  21. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If thats the case, which is entirely believable and valid, red-teaming it, if I am him, I am signing on with Canada. Id take starting minutes over spot minutes
     
  22. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    #6447 Clint Eastwood, Nov 5, 2024
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    Canada has some pretty strong attacking depth in those positions too, though.

    Maybe he could take the place of a bench player like Shaffelburg, but then again Shaffelburg seems to play pretty well for them. [And he's been linked with a move to Europe.]
     
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  23. InterUSMNT

    InterUSMNT New Member

    Inter Miami
    United States
    Jan 30, 2023
    They also often play Davies at winger, and can't forget abt Buchanan.
     
  24. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    My personal opinion is there's no guarantee of a senior spot with Canada or the US either.

    If I was advising Luca, I'd suggest staying on course to play with the Italy U21s next summer at the European Championships (which they've already qualified for). Then make a decision after that.

    That team has matches in this November window. If he's not on that roster, that'll really make us take notice.
     
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  25. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    And he might make a move to a better league over the summer, whether through promotion or transfer. He'd have a stronger case for inclusion with whichever national team if he starts next season well in the EPL.
     

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