Looks like Canada has canceled the Iran friendly on June 5th, so he's not likely to even get a cap: New story "Canada Soccer calls off planned friendly match with Iran in face of rising criticism" has been published on https://t.co/2MRHpU9Cja - https://t.co/DlQ4SGdh9R #sault #SaultNews #SaultOnline #ONNtv #LoveLocal— provence.eth (@provence_eth) May 26, 2022
Source: https://t.co/k5eZTpJlvN— Takes 🇺🇸 (@USMNTTAKES) May 26, 2022 "...However, the call-up does not mean Koleosho has definitively committed his international future to Canada, with a source telling ESPN a decision is likely to be delayed until after June's camp."
Koleosho apparently wants to skip the U20 qualifiers to focus on making the full RCD Espanyol squad for next season. Given that, this was a chance for Herdman to call him into a Canada camp to help him weigh his options. He was never going to be cap-tied either way. They wanted to do the same thing with Marcelo Flores and never got a chance after Canada cancelled the January camp due to covid. Canada has had precious few youth camps in the last four years and haven't had an experimental senior camp since pre-covid. When Romania is cap-tying a 15 year old from Toronto, I don't think you can be too pro-active in trying to get promising young players into the program. I expected Koleosho to be more on the USYNT radar since he's been on the Canadian U20 radar for a couple of years, but you guys really do have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to young players at the moment.
Canada really has alot of dual nationals over the years so I understand why they'd want to be aggressive.
We haven't had a ton of U20 camps either. Koleosho was at the U20 camp at the end of April. He might have had a chance to make the US U20 roster depending on availability/release of the first string guys. But who knows.............................he's a 17 year old. A lottery ticket. Could fall off the face of the Earth. Could turn into a pro, but not worthy of senior national team consideration (like say Ayo Akinola). Could become a senior international. All I know is you guys have some pretty good attacking players that might not make your World Cup squad (Liam Miller, etc.), and most of your attacking pool is young.
GRAN NOTICIA. Como lo habíamos dicho hace una semana en @desdeelvarpod, Jonathan Gómez es convocado al Preolímpico/Premundial Sub 20 con México. Eso esencialmente lo amarra con el Tri para el resto de su carrera. 😃🥶 pic.twitter.com/DRJPxA63rK— Martín del Palacio (@martindelp) May 26, 2022
Not sure where I "doubted"... I said Berhalter should fly to Germany to recruit Tillman. Berhalter flew to Germany to recruit Tillman, and it worked. The jersey on social media part is not as important as the actual meeting part, agreed... although dumb social media crap absolutely does matter to a lot of young guys that age and US Soccer should do more of it. When Gregg does exactly what I want, that's not owning me in any way, I am very happy to see it! Gregg: "We had some good conversations a couple weeks ago in Munich."
Obviously Jonathan Gomez is the most important one, but that's about a quarter of their 25 outfield players... Plenty of Mexican-American dual-nationals in the latest call-up for #ElTriEng's U20 squad. -Jonathan Gomez-Anthony Ramos -Tony Leone -Nathan Ordaz-Jonathan Perez-Christian TorresPrepping for Concacaf U20 Championship https://t.co/knSmiJ10Kc— Cesar Hernandez (@cesarhfutbol) May 26, 2022
I'll quote the entire post, you where throwing a hissy fit on the youth boards over El Tri holding a youth camp in the US. And were quite upset over the image of Slonina and the Polish coach handing him a jersey with his name on it, how did that work out for them? Clearly our federation does it recruiting behinds the scene without flaunting it all over social media. Glad you're not the one doing the recruiting, or you'd scare them all away like Poland did with Slonina, next time take a deep breath when you're experiencing #Dualnationalpanic
Good point no need for "panic" as El Tri holding youth camps in the US is obviously unlikely to result in a bunch of Mexican-American kids playing for Mexico's youth national teams... today seems like a great day to be making that point! Plenty of Mexican-American dual-nationals in the latest call-up for #ElTriEng's U20 squad. -Jonathan Gomez-Anthony Ramos -Tony Leone -Nathan Ordaz-Jonathan Perez-Christian TorresPrepping for Concacaf U20 Championship https://t.co/knSmiJ10Kc— Cesar Hernandez (@cesarhfutbol) May 26, 2022
Yep. El Tri is having success. I don't know that it hurts the US program, though. It's more a reflection of the strength of the program, if anything.
I don't think anyone could argue with that, but US Soccer has to fight like hell for dual nats using all acceptable tools and tactics, especially for the ones they think could end up being difference makers. As for whether or not it hurts the US program, if the first Pulisic-caliber Mexican-American ended up playing for El Tri over the US, that would certainly have negative ramifications.
I am bummed about this one. I think that kid could turn out to be very very good. I agree with this guys tweets in this thread (both in youth team mgt and choices of venue), though I know some here disagree. We can start by taking youth national games more seriously. We know how serious it is for Mexico. But when it comes to our side we have Seattle fans crying that Vargas could miss a few games. Vargas may I add that will be another dual national already leaning towards Mexico.— Javi 🇺🇲🗽⭐ (@Javi_DLT_USMNT) May 27, 2022
MLS-trained players getting caps for the Mexican National Teams doesn't exactly hurt MLS credibility or marketing. And this movement may not be the unpreferred path, given MLS will no longer be involved with the marketing of the US, but will continue to market the Mexican National Team.
I think the USMNT is always going to struggle with Mexican-American dual nats who have the option to play for both squads. A lot of Mexican-Americans in this country are very, very passionate El Tri supporters and it’s going to be hard to get them onboard when they have the chance to play for a team they’ve been rooting for their whole lives. I think we as a federation could do more to bring in more Mexican-American fans which would help (like not playing every game in ********ing Ohio) but alas that’s a longer term sorta problem. As for JoGo specifically it would suck to lose him, he was mega impressive in the USL, but I’m not sure what else we could’ve done to keep the guy. Honestly Leone is the one who I really wish the USMNT had some sway with but it appears that isn’t gonna happen.
I think a lot of fans and the USSF think about the Mexican-American and other Hispanic fans in old-fashioned, unimaginative ways. Liga MX may be the most popular league in the United States, but that is a legacy that is certainly contestable by MLS. The early weakness of MLS and family traditions explain the popularity of Liga MX among Mexican Americans. But MLS is pretty savvy about courting this part of the fan base, and as MLS gets better and better relative to Liga MX, I think we’re going to see a shift in relative popularity. More and more MLS teams are courting Latin American players. The atmosphere at Q2 Stadium in Austin is a Latin American atmosphere, and almost everyone in the stadium loves it, even though non-Latinos probably are the more numerous group. USSF needs to learn from MLS. A very large percentage of Mexican American fans in the United States are American citizens who chose this country over their country of origin. Young dual nationals who were born and raised in the United States ought to be inclined to pick the US, all else equal. They are with each generation becoming more American. Recruiting talented dual national Mexicans is more important than recruiting other dual nationals because of their numbers in the youth ranks and the precedential value of wins and losses in the minds of those families of younger players coming up. Avoiding Spanish-speaking fans so assiduously when choosing venues has to be alienating, especially when we are willing to risk the health of our own players in order to do it. (St Paul) Obviously, players will also want to go where they think they are most likely to get into the national team; but Gomez should have been optimistic about his chances with the USMNT. I know, I know… Home-field advantage… But sometimes you have to give up something now in order to get something bigger later. Sometimes you have to play the long game. USSF should be playing the long game. An American team that comes to dominate Mexico, playing in front of Hispanic American fans, featuring Mexican-American dual nationals, will win hearts and minds away from the Mexican team. I know there are probably segments of the American soccer public who don’t want to see a team like that, but they ought to lose this argument on ethical grounds. Land of the free, melting pot, and all that.
Indeed. A rising tide lifts all boats. Mexico calling up so many Mexican-Americans across all youth teams, and their senior team, says a lot about American development programs (and let's not forget the Canadian Flores). And the state of Mexican domestic development programs. USMNT fans have a bizarre complex with Mexico. Some sort of mixture of an inferiority complex and persecution complex. Its the US that's back-to-back-to-back U20 CONCACAF Champions. Its the USMNT that's Gold Cup Champion and Nations League Champion. Mexico hasn't beaten us in 4 straight games. I will enjoy Jonathan Gomez wearing his runner's up medal at the upcoming U20 CONCACAF Championships. People do know that Antonee Robinson is pretty darn good. Right? Arguably our most consistent player over the course of qualifying. He'll be in the Premier League next season with Fulham. AC Milan, who won Serie A, submitted a transfer bid for him in 2020. People do know that this board's darling Joe Scally played LB at times in the Bundesliga this year. Right? As did George Bello for that matter. And Sam Vines in Belgium. Our development programs roll on. More players will come off the pipeline. Next man up!!!
FC Barcelona plan to sign '07 German-American & Borussia Dortmund CB Tyler Meiser. Meiser has been with Dortmund U15 & U16s in 21/22 and has already been capped with the Germany U15s. One to watch. pic.twitter.com/mc9O8ODjcs— Joey (@USAprospects) May 27, 2022
Just one other thing to add on the Mexico discussion. People do understand that they extended their deal with SUM thru 2026. THey have no home WCQers next cycle. Their games will overwhelmingly be in the US, with their base in Dallas. FC Dallas and Dan Hunt are part of the deal. There's Jerry Jones too. What's going on? This is huge business. Huge money making opportunity. That's what's going on. FMF renews MexTour with FC Dallas, Dallas Cowboys, and Dallas Sports Commission through 2026 https://t.co/cpEr7fLAo8— 3rd Degree (@3rdDegreeNet) May 26, 2022
I am not so sure this means JOGO has made a final decision as he can still make a switch. However, I agree with CE that the left back position for the USMNT seems pretty stacked and I suggest that is the primary factor when a kid decides what country he will play for. Why would JOGO declare for the US and sit behind A Rob for the next two world cups if he thinks he can move into the Mexican senior team earlier? It's all about playing time and opportunity. You go where you have the best chance. Makes sense.