I have always been against the use of cameras in ref decisions. But seeing the immense amount of stupid decisions by the refs in this years CL I think it's time they start using it. Tonight was another good example. Koller supposedly making a foul in preparing Dortmunds 2-0. Nothing happened!!! A goddamned disgrace! Dortmund robbed of two points!
I didn't even know there was a disallowed goal, but it was the longest non English highlight shown, about 10-15 mins. I wonder why they didn't show it, what happened?
I'll agree there didn't seem to be much contact but a giant player like Koller is usually going to get called for 'throwing his weight" around. But AFCA what about the obvious penalty the English ref didn't call when Ronaldo's heels were clipped from behind? or the back pass to the Dortmund keeper which the ref didn't call? These things typically even out in the end. Overall it was an exciting end to end game. A tie was the proper result in my view.
The back pass is a thing that doesn't get called about three times per match. Ronaldo was brought down twice I believe. One of them might have been a penalty. But you cannot compare these debatable calls to a 100% crisp goal that is dissalowed. Koller didn't even foul the grass he landed on.
I did not see the whole game and also not the scene with a questionable Koller foul. What I remember is a foul of Wörns against Ronaldo in the box quite at the beginning of the game (at least first half), so Dortmund can't really complain. Regarding TV proof I always rejected the idea as long as we don't have 2x30 net playing time as it would take too much time to control. But at the weekend in Bundesliga we had the game Schalke vs Dortmund with many dubious decisions, and during the game you saw Matthias Sammer and Schalke GM Rudi Assauer go to a camera and check one scene in replay. The whole thing just lasted some seconds and I wondered why the fourth official is not allowed to check it as quickly - in this game he would have detected that Dortmund's Dede had to be ejected and that Schalke scored a regular game winner.
Rubbish! Check "Westfalische Rundschau" today (Dortmund's newspaper), not a mention of the correctly anulled goal. Why? Because, it was the other way around. Real was clearly robed of the two points. There were two clear penalties against them that the ref ignored. One against Ronaldo, one against Raul (this on the same day that Millan won thants to a solf penalty in Russia, I guess it;s easier to win groups that way). I know the English, with their well deserved inferiority complex, fear Madrid winning it all, again, and this time in English soil. But, shouldn't your refs at least pretend to be fair? It's just a suggestion. Conjuror
Ronaldo's was in now way a Penalty, correct call the whole way, Ronaldo stepped in front of the defender, held him off, then the Dortmund defender fell down and Ronaldo was standing alone with the ball right in front of him ready to score, only then did he fall. Complete dive. Good no call. Fair result.
Wow, I didn't see you get so worked up when Ajax played against the French team earlier this season. Weird.
So? Nobody in their right mind would do so if their club just put a big step toward the 2nd round. Besides, this mistake made up well for the mistakes at Ajax - Inter (the disallowed goal at least) that cost us victory in that match. So all in all we're level. But I've had this thought for some time now. It just came out after yesterdays match. Dear Mr Oscar, from this day on, must I write every single thought I have on this board, so that thou can check if my words are honourable?
Evens out? You mean like it evened out that Madrid didn't get (at least) 1 penalty, or that they didn't get the free kick in the box, which I don't know why you get the impression it doesn't get called '3 times in a game' seeing as I saw it get called every time before last night. This at least was an even game with both sides receiving questionable calls, the tie was a good result. There was only 1 team in France that day which deserved to win; and it wasn't Ajax who got overrun for almost 90 minutes. That match was a bigger disgrace...but I guess in your mind last night's game was a bigger reason to call for video replays? Please.
No it just struck me again so I decided to post something about it. Don't like it? Tough luck. And about Ajax being overrun in France. Oh boy, that one really hurts. The difference is that Madrid is a team of millions and Ajax is not. Meaning that for Ajax it was a pretty good result which I'm happy with. I don't give s.h.i.t if it was deserved or not. Now stop crying you little s.l.u.t. you're getting on my nerves.
Tsk tsk, I'm not the one crying like a little baby because Madrid didn't get eliminated last night (there's still a chance, don't commit suicide just yet) I'm merely pointing out the obvious. The money thing always gets mentioned. I don't see you complaining about how Ajax makes more money than over half the teams in Holland. Then again, this thread already shows you only complain about 'disgraceful' and 'unfair' things that aren't in favor of your team. And if somebody making sense to you gets on your nerves, I'd say go visit a shrink or something to help you with this problem. Because this won't be the only time it'll happen.
I would like for Madrid to be eliminated. But it couldn't have happened yesterday. And I do have a big problem with Ajax' (and PSV and feyenoord's) greed and unwillingness to help out the other Dutch clubs instead of flirting with some kind of Euroleague nightmare and signing the other clubs death verdict. I only hope that the smaller Dutch clubs will strike gold some day so we can have better Dutch clubs and a more balanced competition (too bad you can't catch me on that one eh?). Don't think you know me because of one thread. Like I said before, should I post every single thought and point of view I have on these boards before I can claim I have them? And don't be phucking idiot. Nobody complains about an unjust decision in favor of their team. And like I said... what happened in Lyon was actually a disgrace. But when it's in our favor I'm just as happy with it. Doesn't mean that I feel that these situations shouldn't exist. Don't confuse me with some of those Asian wanks around here. I'm not a 14 year old boy who knows nothing about football and has a big mouth about his team that he choose because it's like... way cool. Your insinuations say more about you than they do about me.
You talk about it's a disgrace that Madrid got the tie, but in Ajax's case it's ok because it evened out in another game. Things evened out for Madrid in the very same game instead of some match which took place with another team weeks later, and for that matter didn't even things out for the team that was actually hurt because of the dissallowed goal: Lyon. You, and many others with you for that matter, bring up that Madrid has money..when you never hear the same people talking about the advantage they have over most all the teams in their domestic leagues. Whoopee, Ajax can play in the CL again next season. Big surprise seeing as they are one of the top 3 teams in Holland when it comes to $$$... and how long didn't they manage to play in the CL again? Using your words: 'Ajax is a team of millions, Willem II and Heerenveen are not' p.s. I don't know any football fan that is in favor of the Euro League I agree that there should be camera replays for plays like these, but there was nothing 'disgraceful' about the score from last night's match. Dortmund did not get 'ripped off', and they were not 'robbed of 2 points'. That's just your anti-Madrid bias talking, which is apparent throughout this thread. I guess you got something going for you
Possible. Enough of all this. No, one more thing "when you never hear the same people talking about the advantage they have over most all the teams in their domestic leagues" Not very relevant IMO. The Dutch title is a battle between three clubs. The rest never participate. No need to talk about that as it has never been much different since the beginning of pro football in Holland. I'd rather see clubs like NAC, Groningen and Utrecht be succesfull and compete for the title as well and be able to perform in Europe a bit. It should be possible.
Man, you totally missed an opportunity to cuss in Dutch instead of having to do this: fu-cking. They don't censor tyfuslijer and klootzak over here. And Utrecht won't be competing for anything soon come the next season, Heerenveen and possibly Den Haag have a better shot (investors are waiting to spend some money on this team if they get promoted)
I don't think many investors are waiting in line for Den Haag. Their image is completely destroyed and the first time there's trouble the whole Telegraaf will be one big special edition about it. Sad, but true. Den Haag supporters are placed under an even bigger microscope than the others (except when they do someting good of course). And klootzak is not a curse. Something like "vuile tyfushond krijg de rottende rotkanker" is A wonderfull Dutch thing... combining all these diseases. 1. pestpleuris 2. pestkanker 3. kankertering The absolute top three
Don't you watch Studio Sport...it's a major no-no to use kanker as a cuss word. Or maybe that's only the case in Rotterdam There are still some companies that won't mind supporting Den Haag, there would have been a pretty big sum of money given to the club a few seasons ago if they managed to get Jol over here. Both didn't happen. I guess some investors will choose to stay away, but the club already has a bigger budget than some of the lower teams in the Eredivisie now, and it will only grow next year if they manage to promote. The rising attendances and the new stadium won't hurt either (zogenaamd beter geschikt om de non-supporters tegen te gaan...kan ook helpen om sommige sponsors toch zover te krijgen hun geld weg te geven) Maybe it's just wisfull thinking...meh. I'll be content enough if Ajax defeat Arsenal tonight
You are the one who is crying like a little girl.By the way,the referee helped Borussia,so you havent any reason for crying. I am wondering what will you say when Valencia DESTROY Ajax and Arsenal and Valencia advance to quarterfinals.It will be funny.
We have this one boy at Ajax who's had cancer. Pretty tough to remember not to use the word when he's around. Just so common that you don't even notice it yourself. Oh well. We'll see what happens in Den Haag. Surely they must win promotion this year... FINALLY. Me too