Donovan with meaningful insight: US must play well

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by aarond23, May 1, 2014.

  1. aarond23

    aarond23 Member+

    Feb 24, 2006
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.espnfc.com/news/story/_/...-force-world-cup-rivals-not-play-well?cc=5901

    This right up there with Klinsman's 'We are ready' quotes, keeping the controversy level at -1000 so far I guess is the plan.
     
  2. Susaeta

    Susaeta BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 3, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is World Cup year. Fluff pieces will only be outnumbered by attempts at pulling at your heart strings by documenting every speed bump any soccer player may have encountered in life.
     
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  3. aarond23

    aarond23 Member+

    Feb 24, 2006
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Next article: Bradley says US must score more goals than Ghana to win
     
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  4. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Then the article after that:

    Altidore: "I will score 2 against Germany."

    Then controversy will begin.
     
  5. ClevelandForce

    Jan 27, 2010
    Ha, I saw the LD headline on ESPN and chuckled. It's better if you say it in your head with your best Donovan monotone (Donotone? Monovan?).

    We also need some good luck. Looking back, we've profited from 4 own goals in World Cup group games starting with 1994 (if you count the Robert Green fumble as an own goal, which isn't technically correct, but it might as well have been). That's almost 1 every 4 games. Gimme some more of that and I'll be happy.
     
  6. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    Never can post this clip too many times:


    Serving it up vanilla for reporters for too many years to remember.
     
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  7. Susaeta

    Susaeta BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 3, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  8. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    But then we have to consider that Agoos' own goal against Portugal would cancel one of those out...
     
  9. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Possibly the single greatest sports movie ever.
     
  10. aarond23

    aarond23 Member+

    Feb 24, 2006
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Reyna falling down, Rico Clark's awfulness, Edu's non goal, probably more that I'm not thinking of right now.
     
  11. Susaeta

    Susaeta BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 3, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Ditto.

    I always felt that what Brek Shea really needed was a Crash Davis. Actually, Freddy could've used one himself. Learning to be a professional in the minors is one of the better aspects that baseball has going for it.
     
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  13. HouseHead78

    HouseHead78 Member+

    Oct 17, 2006
    Austin, TX
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The bad offside call on Dempsey vs. Algeria. The Onyewu penalty against Ghana in 2006.
     
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  14. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    Caddyshack disagrees with you.
     
  15. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Just saw that the other day for the first time in decades. Laughed. Wouldn't really call it a "sports" movie, though. It's a teen sex comedy poking fun at rich people much more than it is a "golf movie" in the way that you could say Tin Cup is, say.
     
  16. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  17. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
  18. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I actually love what Donovan is saying.
    I have been waiting for years to hear (read) a player say we can beat teams like Portugal, Ghana and Germany if we play our best.

    World Cup teams past did not have players come out and say bold stuff like that. They just could not do it cause they knew it was not true.
    Donovan truly believes this and I think the rest of the team and coaching staff believes this as well.

    I like the positive vibes.
     
  19. aarond23

    aarond23 Member+

    Feb 24, 2006
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think they proved to anyone with the 09 Confed Cup that they can play well enough to beat anyone on any day, I dont think that is really a point of contention.

    The problem in my mind is consistency, how can they keep that level up through 4-5 games?

    Why do they always seem to either have a fast start or have a slow start and kick it on in minute 60? Why cant they have 90 good minutes? Thats the next level.
     
  20. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Consistency is a problem for many teams not just the USA. Even teams that have way more history and prestige than the USA struggle and look flat for long stretches.
    But possibly the slow starts should not only be attributed to our bad play but the good play of the teams we are facing.
     
  21. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    I'm going to hijack this thread to drop some obvious meaningful insight of my own:

    Don't concede the first goal.

    US record in World Cup since 1990:
    When scoring the first goal: 4-1-0.
    When conceding the first goal: 0-4-13.

    South Korea in 2002 is the only match in which the US has surrendered a lead. The team fought back for draws against Suisse in 94, Italy in 06, and England and Slovenia in 2010. (Also Ghana in 2010, but that still ends in the loss column because of Extra Time).
     
  22. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Should have won the Slovenia match though.

    That Corrupt African ref stunk up the joint.
     
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  23. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    And even then, my stat is deceptive because of how dreadful the US was in the 1990s at the World Cup. Take out those matches, and it's bad but not horrific.

    US record in World Cup since 2002:
    When scoring the first goal: 3-1-0.
    When conceding the first goal: 0-3-5.

    And only in 2 of those 5 losses was the team comprehensively beaten as was what usually happened in the 1990s, against Poland in 2002 and Czech Republic in 2006.
     

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