Donovan versus D'Alessandro (R)

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  1. Mr. Bandwagon

    Mr. Bandwagon Member

    Terremotos
    May 24, 2001
    the Barbary Coast
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Donovan versus D'Alessandro

    From Robert Wagman/SoccerTimes:

    ...Coach Marcelo Bielsa, recently rehired to coach Argentina after being fired following the nation's first-round exit at the 2002 World Cup, built this weekend's side around five players from Argentina's under-20 men's team that won the World Youth Championship in 2001. The stars are two River Plate midfielders, both considered prodigies: Federico Insua and Andres D'Alessandro...

    ...Saturday's matchup should prove informative on how American rising star Landon Donovan will perform against D'Alessandro, Argentina's midfielder of the future who is expected to be playing soon in Europe and earning millions of dollars annually. Bielsa was quoted in the Argentine press as saying he will D'Alessandro straight up against Donovan, the biggest test faced by the San Jose Earthquakes midfielder since the World Cup...


    This one should be interesting. As I recall, D'Alessandro was driving the full Mexican national team into Cobi-like fits of rage, even inducing a poorly-concealed right-hook to the face in garbage time. It should be real nice to see some wide-open scrimmaging between these two, especially with the implications that they may be battling it out at Germany 2006. Likewise with Richie.
     
  2. roarksown1

    roarksown1 Member

    Mar 30, 2001
    Playa del Rey, CA
    Club:
    Hamburger SV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They're both wonderfully skilled players, but I think that D'Alessandro, at least for now, has the edge. It's that creative something that a kid gets playing futbol in Argentina, and lacks playing AYSO in the States. It's also about finishing - I've seen D'Alessandro rip the ball for River Plate with the utmost confidence, whereas Donovan seems to want to play cheeky and smart all the time, instead of every once in a while (and necessarily) cramming the pill (ball) down the opponents throats.

    But I can't wait to see them on the same pitch...
     
  3. rrobz

    rrobz Member

    Feb 5, 2001
    Palo Alto, CA
    I'm less worried about D'Allessandro than I am about Insua, who's looked awesome recently.
     
  4. Defender

    Defender Member

    Joe's Plumbing 86ers
    Feb 16, 2001
    San Francisco CA
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    D'Alessandro will have the edge. If I have the right player in mind, he's the number 10 for River Plate, and is also nicknamed 'little rabbit'. He's an incredible player. I've seen him meg opponents in the Argentine league at will. Terrific abilities.
     
  5. thurd

    thurd New Member

    Jul 31, 2001
    Melrose, MA
    i thought saviola was the little rabbit?
     
  6. Naco

    Naco Member

    Aug 5, 2001
    Nope. Andres es el coyotito.

    Sean
     
  7. TerremotoFan

    TerremotoFan New Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    San Jose, Ca
    Donovan versus D'Alessandro

    Overall I think Donovan has a solid edge but your criticism is definitely valid.
     
  8. StillKickin

    StillKickin Member+

    Austin FC
    Dec 17, 2002
    Texas
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    D'Allesandro needs to pick up his game and play better against US than he did against Mexico. He looked real nervous on the ball and made some really poor passes. I think LD has him beat all over the place. LD is cool and calm with great skill and speed. I think he's faster and definitely stronger. D'Allessandro gets knocked off the ball easily.
     
  9. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    right now, id give d'allesandro a slight edge also, but im thinking LD has a slightly higher ceiling

    LD's finishing and consistancy are the seperating factors for me - i do think tho that hes gonna play like a champ tomorrow
     
  10. soccerbone

    soccerbone Member+

    Apr 12, 2002
    Los Altos, Ca
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Donovan versus D'Alessandro

    Actually It's "El Mago", "The Magician" Spanish. Thank you please come again.
     
  11. koule

    koule New Member

    Dec 13, 2001
    Richmond, VA
    Re: Donovan versus D'Alessandro

    Yeah, I read this too, and it puzzled me. I'm not sure how Bielsa's going to play the two straight up against each other given that D'Alessandro's impact is going to come in the U.S. half, as Donovan's is going to come in the Argentine half. I'm sure there will be jousting in the center of midfield, but they will duel only to the extent that Donovan tracks back defensively on D'Alessandro and, stopping the Argentine, moves into counterattack.

    In this sense, I think Donovan has the advantage, given that I see him playing a holding or defensive game vs. D'Alessandro's attacking game.

    I don't, by the way, mean to imply that the Argentines will completely take it to the U.S., but I do think that defensive weaknesses for the U.S. will mean that our midfielders are going to have to track back.
     
  12. Naco

    Naco Member

    Aug 5, 2001
    Re: Donovan versus D'Alessandro

    What happened to your friend Santana?

    "Thank you please come again."

    Sean
     
  13. dogface

    dogface Let's Just Pretend

    Jun 22, 2002
    St. Peter, MN
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Re: Donovan versus D'Alessandro

    You're partially correct -- I've always heard him referred to as "Mandrake the Magician," but you have to pronounce "Mandrake" with a Spanish accent though.
    --df
     
  14. usagoal

    usagoal Member

    Oct 19, 2000
    Las Vegas
    Re: Donovan versus D'Alessandro

    Didn't Cantor keep calling him "El Cabezon" during the Mexico game. I might be wrong.
     
  15. Barca_Fan2003

    Barca_Fan2003 New Member

    Mar 30, 2002
    Slidell, LA
    Who was Argentina's #7? He was giving Mexico real problems on the wings. Along with D'Alessandro, he seemed to be the most effective player.
     
  16. Naco

    Naco Member

    Aug 5, 2001
    Just throwing out a name...Insua?

    Sean
     
  17. Toffees_rule

    Toffees_rule New Member

    Feb 11, 2000
    SFSU
    I think D'Alessandro probly has a better technique than Donovan, not by much, but his ball control is a bit better(dribbling etc).

    That being said, the two are really different types of players, Donovan himself is more of a converted striker to the withdrawn midfielder/forward role, whereas D'alessandro is an attacking midfielder that can also play on the left.
     
  18. Crazy_Quakes_Fan

    Crazy_Quakes_Fan New Member

    Jul 23, 2002
    San Mateo, CA
    D'Allesandro looked much better today. That may be because he was actually getting opportunities and creating them for himself (thanks to constant pressure from his teammates.) Donovan had very few chances today actually; but he had some great moments, particularly that sixty yard run before he was cheaply pushed down by the Argentinian defender. He just wasn't getting any help or service from his fellow players. Although he has to keep his cool; he was treating that Guatemalan ref like Gus St. Silva.
     
  19. Blong

    Blong Member+

    Oct 29, 2002
    Midwest, the real one.
    Re: Donovan versus D'Alessandro



    Insua plays for Independiente, not River.

    Do we need to start a thread for D'alessandro's apodos?

    I'd heard of Mandrake and Cabezon, but Conejito-I thought that was Saviola(and fits him better).

    As for the performances of Donovan and El Cabezon, both displayed flashes of class(and lack thereof after the whistle). D'alessandro looked a bit more exciting throughout, but his teammates helped with their spacing and timing.
     
  20. Blong

    Blong Member+

    Oct 29, 2002
    Midwest, the real one.
    Mariano Gonzales-one of my favorites. Plays for Racing.
     
  21. Jose L. Couso

    Jose L. Couso New Member

    Jul 31, 2000
    Arlington, VA
    Different type players but I prefer Donovan.

    OT:Bayer Leverkusen is in the relegation zone in Germany. If they fall to second division Landon Donovan may thankfully be out of contract with them.
     
  22. Defender

    Defender Member

    Joe's Plumbing 86ers
    Feb 16, 2001
    San Francisco CA
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fact or guess? Please clarify. I know that many pro contracts have release clauses in the case of relegation, but there have been no reports on that for Donovan specifically.
     
  23. Jose L. Couso

    Jose L. Couso New Member

    Jul 31, 2000
    Arlington, VA
    Guess.

    As you rightfully pointed out "I know that many pro contracts have release clauses in the case of relegation".

    More importantly "...there have been no reports on that for Donovan specifically." I would also like to know.
     
  24. Defender

    Defender Member

    Joe's Plumbing 86ers
    Feb 16, 2001
    San Francisco CA
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Donovan and D'Alessandro played different positions, had two different sets of supporting players with two different strategies and objectives. It's difficult to compare them and say who's better, who will/won't succeed.

    I remember Argentina getting bounced from the first round in WC2002 and the US making it to the quarter-finals with significant help from Donovan.
     
  25. DigitalTron

    DigitalTron New Member

    Apr 4, 2001
    Arlington, VA

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