Donovan: Leverkusen v. K'lautern, 3/19 (R)

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by BuffloSoldier, Mar 19, 2005.

  1. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    a Play-By-Play thread. Where a person sits infront of a TV and reports whats happening in the game in a thread for those who can't get to a TV or radio
     
  2. Saeyddthe

    Saeyddthe Member

    Sep 5, 2003
    St. Looney ^the CB&J
    "Play - By - Play"

    :

    A match tracker thread...
     
  3. bltleo

    bltleo Member+

    Jan 5, 2003
    GERMANY
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany

    O.K then I´m terrible PBP with german accent.:)
    Difficult to understand my comments:)
    greeting
    your bltleo
    leverkusen
     
  4. HO PHANTOM CDX

    HO PHANTOM CDX New Member

    Nov 13, 1999
    Lake Tapps WA

    The opposite of this thread.
     
  5. Beau Dure

    Beau Dure Member+

    May 31, 2000
    Vienna, VA
    On the other hand, a lot of people reminded us not to panic when Tim Howard was benched -- the first AND the second time. He hasn't exactly locked up the starting job at Man U for years to come, but should we be panicking now?

    If Landon plays in MLS in 2005, I'll change my sig file to "I am a worthless poseur" for the rest of the year.
     
  6. voros

    voros Member

    Jun 7, 2002
    Parts Unknown
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well the question as you ohrase it is loaded and unfair to those you disagree with here. If you simply phrased the same question as "Do you think it's important for Donovan to get regular playing time or is it okay for him to spen some time on the bench or in the reserves?" He'd unequivocally tell you that what's best for Donovan is to be playing regularly. He currently is not.
     
  7. art

    art Member

    Jul 2, 2000
    Portland OR
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Been said a million times...nothing that happens this season is likely to make or break the guy in Germany. If he's still not playing at the end of next year, well then all bets are off.

    You'd think patience was a dirty word around here.
     
  8. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    That would qualify as an unmitigated disaster -- to miss 18 months of playing time in the prime of one's career.

    No way I'd counsel a national team player of the year to go to a situation where there was a realistic possibility that he'd collect splinters for 18 months as a 23/24 year old. That's a career-threatening move, particularly for an attacking player (unlike, say, Howard as a goalkeeper, who will likely mature later.)

    Patience, hell. There's no time for patience. A professional soccer player has a the lifespan of a firefly.
     
  9. Metrogo

    Metrogo Member

    Apr 6, 1999
    Washington Hghts NY
    A little more patience? Yes. 'til the end of next year? Too much.
     
  10. Beau Dure

    Beau Dure Member+

    May 31, 2000
    Vienna, VA
    I only ask it because people in this discussion have made that very suggestion -- Landon back here in June.
     
  11. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    In some ways, this is a very good response (and civil, too).

    On the other hand, the two situations strike me as being fundamentally different. Timmie was immediately handed a job and given 40+ games to play himself out of it. Landon has been begging for scraps ever since arriving at his "70% to 80%" situation.

    You will not find me stating that Tim Howard might have made a mistake in coming to England, or complaining about his being benched. Timmie has been treated damn fair. I don't think that's been the case with Landon.
     
  12. kpaulson

    kpaulson New Member

    Jun 16, 2000
    Washington DC
    Don't you think your question is a little loaded as well?

    Again, I think you're narrowing the scope too much.

    Of course players should get regular playing time. But does that mean they should only ever go to places where they will automatically have a spot? That I'm not so sure of.
     
  13. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    What does LD have to prove in MLS?
    Why would he return? lower level of soccer, less money, less prestige, fewer professional challenges, less interesting competitions.
    He's done MLS, and done it like its back ain't got no bone. He's also good enough that he's going to be penciled in with the USMNT even if he continues to fight for playing time for a while.
    If he can't cut it after a couple years, it's time to rethink his career, become a domestic player. But if he's got international star quality (and among those convinced he does are the folks at Lev), he's better off staying and proving it.
    The only reason to return, that I can see, would be Mexican restaurants. They're just horrible over here. Course, others have argued peanut butter.
     
  14. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    What about Chinese? The real stuff, or brown sauce chop suey? I can handle any city with good Chinee food ...
     
  15. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    My neighborhood has two pretty good Chinese restaurants and about 10 mediocre ones (which is about the normal ratio) but much better vietnamese, indian, italian, portuguese, Greek and turkish.
    But, and I hope this came through, my point was that it's just wrong to glop corn, carrots and gorgonzola on a burrito.
    Thinking about this, maybe he should pack it in.
     

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