Donovan is to blame for horrible loss

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  1. lond2345

    lond2345 Member

    Aug 19, 2002
    USA
    If he had not enfuriated the whole country of Mexico by taking a whiz on one of their sacred soccer cathedrals then the USA would not have lost as they did.

    What Donovan did was the last straw and the Mexicans couldnt take it any longer. It pushed their buttons, it made them snap, they had to win or would jump off bridges. It was either win or win for Mexico.

    Many of you are making this even more political than it already is. Does the actions of Donovan reflect U.S foreign policy? that Americans do what they want when they want because they are the best?

    what next? Donovan taking a whiz on the Eiffel tower? Mecca?

    If Donovan had not taken a whiz I bet you it would not have been 4-0. Yes I know it might sound funny but only because it is true.
     
  2. mpruitt

    mpruitt Member

    Feb 11, 2002
    E. Somerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    What American piss is too good for Mexican soil? Or was his packaging wrong? If he'd been in the stands and thrown it onto the feild in a ziplock would that have been okay. I don't for a second believe the Mexican reports in regards to this issue.
     
  3. dj43

    dj43 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Nor Cal
    He should have whizzed on the US backs. Those guys deserved it!!!
     
  4. BallStateMiddie

    BallStateMiddie New Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Nashvegas
    Point of order: shouldn't there be an [R] in this title?
     
  5. papa surf

    papa surf New Member

    Dec 17, 2003
    Baltimore
    WHAT- LD is to Blame?

    Please tell me your just a little emotional right now.
     
  6. lond2345

    lond2345 Member

    Aug 19, 2002
    USA
    I know it might sound funny/stupid but you have to admit it is true. Donovan drove the mexicans over the edge with what he did. They were already phsyched fro the game and this game them the edge.

    I know it sounds funny but we are living in a crazy world indeed.
     
  7. Deuteriumoxide

    May 27, 2003
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I propose that Bigsoccer invent a new class of moderater...

    One who's only power is to add [R] to thread titles...


    That way threads like this can't ruin somebody's day.
     
  8. lond2345

    lond2345 Member

    Aug 19, 2002
    USA
    You would have to be living on the moon not to know the result of the game.

    stop whining like a woman. Do what I did when I didn't want to know a result

    Turn off the computer!

    that simple.
     
  9. papa surf

    papa surf New Member

    Dec 17, 2003
    Baltimore
    LD to Blame ?

    okay for one moment lets say what LD did was an extra motivator, what about our hearts, after hearing the osama chants I was ready for war{ emoitionally speaking as a thick headed Rugby player of course} What happened was not just passion but untested backline play.our best backline was in europe. No excuses, they beat us. LD, Bobby and DMB where were they, sandwhiched between 8 -9 in the box. DJ in goal could you please tell me about him?
     
  10. Deuteriumoxide

    May 27, 2003
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    thats man.. i allready know the result, but this sort of thing happens a lot.

    your theory is crap.

    USA lost because of a crappy defence. Mexico was hyped up enough as it was....

    One pissing incident didn't change anything.

    Goodbye.
     
  11. dcufan1984

    dcufan1984 Member

    Feb 17, 2002
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    you're an idiot. the team gave up 4 goals and didn't even manage a decent effort on goal and you're gonna blame donovan?
     
  12. Femfa

    Femfa New Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    Los Angeles
    The American camp has been denying that the pissing incident even took place.

    The Mexican press could have concocted the entire event to provide that extra motivation you refer to.

    Why, for example, if Donovan did this in full view of reporters, etc, are there no photos - a photo of this would be gold and there were photoggraphers at every practice. Why no other reports of this other than in in Mexican press?
     
  13. mpruitt

    mpruitt Member

    Feb 11, 2002
    E. Somerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Plus, think of what those photos woudl be worth on the SJ board alone. What would the bidding start at to get a look at 'Little Landon?'
     
  14. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Donovan was filmed taking a piss along with other USMNT players.. The footage was shown in diffrent footy shows in Mexico. I think this also lead to some more aggro from the fans in the stands.. Not that it matters now anyways..
     
  15. Femfa

    Femfa New Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    Los Angeles
    Well, post the footage here, VS, because some claim that footage is doctored as well.


    And even the "footage" would seem to indicate as such - if it shows multiple players on the pitch, why would they not mention that in ANY of the articles?

    Why say just Donovan and THEN show so-called evidence of others?

    Post it here.

    We rode on Beas for his incident in Korea, but that was after the proof.

    Produce it VS, and I ain't buying your hearsay. Where's your apology for the Osama chants after you said it was an isolated few that probably wouldn't be repeated at another game? Well, the fans busted out with it again. In a game where the home team won 4-0.
     
  16. Toolhead

    Toolhead Member

    Jul 6, 2003
    Williamsport, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Hate to bring up a cliche, but can you post a link VS? Not that I really give a shite after the Osama chants, I'd be glad if he pissed on the field. The thing is though, Donovan talked the talk, but didn't walk the walk.
     
  17. Femfa

    Femfa New Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    Los Angeles
    Yeah, it's Donovan's fault that he can't simultaneously play offense and defense.

    Actually, the one to blame here would probably be Rongen's stepdaughter, who many of the players knew personally.

    How dare she go and die when our guys needed to concentrate on a game?

    Because it is a game - and really - what matters more than that?
     
  18. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    I dont have any pics of the event. i did see one online, cant remeber where. Most of the press didnt make a big deal but since the incident was filmed it was shown on tv. Now it is important to know that Jalisco Stadium also houses Atlas which fan base is very supportive of their ex coach Lavolpe and have a South American style "Bara Brava" and most likely in charge of the Organized chants. Atlas plays second fiddle to Chivas we own them they are our bitches and yes their fans are the lowest of the low. There Femfa i said it..

    On to other News.. Jimmy Goldsmith who is in charge of MNT international relations has sent a letter of apology to the USSF for the fans poor behaivor. He also said he will send a complaint letter about Lando taking a piss. Now in an earlier interview the people in charge of Jalisco Stadium "Clubes Unidos" said what Lando did was no big deal.. .


    http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/pls/impreso/noticia.html?id_nota=62589&tabla=Deportes
     
  19. mpruitt

    mpruitt Member

    Feb 11, 2002
    E. Somerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    "20-40, a couple of drunken idiots" really? 2000 animals ha?
     
  20. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    maxim-1

    You can use that in the stats and analysis forum :)
     
  21. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
    Billings, MT
    You have nothing VS, nothing. Only disputed video, that you can't produce, which was shown how many times on mexi TV where they didn't make a big deal about it. I didn't know that Fox News and Michael Moore work in Mexico because this reeks of their inacurate work. Bring it VS, bring it you have nothing. All we know is that twice mexican fans have chanted Osama, which is not disputed only the number of people chanting it is. Mexico is for Terrorists and for drumming up controversy. Bring it VS and I will recant, show the balding baby jesus wipping it out and spraying the estadio Jalisco. This is now a matter of personal honor for you and me and if you have nothing within the next month I propose a bet. If a picture or video you produce is decided to be indisputibly Lando wizzing I will pony up the 30 bucks to become a premium member and you will be able to choose my Avatar for a month. If it is not produced or proven to be Lando you will get a new Avatar of my, and others choosing. Prove you have some Cajones and accept my challenge.
     
  22. United20

    United20 Member

    Feb 26, 2001
    New York City
    Pathetic VS, bring the proof... till then, get your skirt back on.
     
  23. CarlosE

    CarlosE Member

    Dec 13, 2000
    Calvert County, MD
    Re: Re: Donovan is to blame for horrible loss

    I am very surprised, VS, that with a hoard of Mexican reporters witnessing this "vile" act, that not one picture was taken of the incident. Don't reporters all over the world have trigger-fingers when it comes to their cameras and unusual events? Aren't they taught that taking pictures of these happenings must be instinctive since it is their lifeblood - what puts bread on their tables?

    You said that you saw the video footage, but someone else said they saw it too, and it the alleged urinator didn't even look like Donovan.

    Please post the proof. Otherwise, it'll look like more dirty gamesmanship (gamesmanship . . . what an oxymoron in this case) . . . this time from the Mexican press.
     
  24. nancyb

    nancyb Member

    Jun 30, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you saw it on-line, you ought to be able to find the link. Check your history URLs. I'm sure it's there. Until you do, this is just an unsubstantiated story.
     
  25. StillKickin

    StillKickin Member+

    Austin FC
    Dec 17, 2002
    Texas
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Of course, you realize any picture produced could be Photo-Shopped to look like anything. So to me, that's still no proof. US Soccer has denied it happened. That's good enough for me.
     

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