If he had not enfuriated the whole country of Mexico by taking a whiz on one of their sacred soccer cathedrals then the USA would not have lost as they did. What Donovan did was the last straw and the Mexicans couldnt take it any longer. It pushed their buttons, it made them snap, they had to win or would jump off bridges. It was either win or win for Mexico. Many of you are making this even more political than it already is. Does the actions of Donovan reflect U.S foreign policy? that Americans do what they want when they want because they are the best? what next? Donovan taking a whiz on the Eiffel tower? Mecca? If Donovan had not taken a whiz I bet you it would not have been 4-0. Yes I know it might sound funny but only because it is true.
What American piss is too good for Mexican soil? Or was his packaging wrong? If he'd been in the stands and thrown it onto the feild in a ziplock would that have been okay. I don't for a second believe the Mexican reports in regards to this issue.
I know it might sound funny/stupid but you have to admit it is true. Donovan drove the mexicans over the edge with what he did. They were already phsyched fro the game and this game them the edge. I know it sounds funny but we are living in a crazy world indeed.
I propose that Bigsoccer invent a new class of moderater... One who's only power is to add [R] to thread titles... That way threads like this can't ruin somebody's day.
You would have to be living on the moon not to know the result of the game. stop whining like a woman. Do what I did when I didn't want to know a result Turn off the computer! that simple.
LD to Blame ? okay for one moment lets say what LD did was an extra motivator, what about our hearts, after hearing the osama chants I was ready for war{ emoitionally speaking as a thick headed Rugby player of course} What happened was not just passion but untested backline play.our best backline was in europe. No excuses, they beat us. LD, Bobby and DMB where were they, sandwhiched between 8 -9 in the box. DJ in goal could you please tell me about him?
thats man.. i allready know the result, but this sort of thing happens a lot. your theory is crap. USA lost because of a crappy defence. Mexico was hyped up enough as it was.... One pissing incident didn't change anything. Goodbye.
you're an idiot. the team gave up 4 goals and didn't even manage a decent effort on goal and you're gonna blame donovan?
The American camp has been denying that the pissing incident even took place. The Mexican press could have concocted the entire event to provide that extra motivation you refer to. Why, for example, if Donovan did this in full view of reporters, etc, are there no photos - a photo of this would be gold and there were photoggraphers at every practice. Why no other reports of this other than in in Mexican press?
Plus, think of what those photos woudl be worth on the SJ board alone. What would the bidding start at to get a look at 'Little Landon?'
Donovan was filmed taking a piss along with other USMNT players.. The footage was shown in diffrent footy shows in Mexico. I think this also lead to some more aggro from the fans in the stands.. Not that it matters now anyways..
Well, post the footage here, VS, because some claim that footage is doctored as well. And even the "footage" would seem to indicate as such - if it shows multiple players on the pitch, why would they not mention that in ANY of the articles? Why say just Donovan and THEN show so-called evidence of others? Post it here. We rode on Beas for his incident in Korea, but that was after the proof. Produce it VS, and I ain't buying your hearsay. Where's your apology for the Osama chants after you said it was an isolated few that probably wouldn't be repeated at another game? Well, the fans busted out with it again. In a game where the home team won 4-0.
Hate to bring up a cliche, but can you post a link VS? Not that I really give a shite after the Osama chants, I'd be glad if he pissed on the field. The thing is though, Donovan talked the talk, but didn't walk the walk.
Yeah, it's Donovan's fault that he can't simultaneously play offense and defense. Actually, the one to blame here would probably be Rongen's stepdaughter, who many of the players knew personally. How dare she go and die when our guys needed to concentrate on a game? Because it is a game - and really - what matters more than that?
I dont have any pics of the event. i did see one online, cant remeber where. Most of the press didnt make a big deal but since the incident was filmed it was shown on tv. Now it is important to know that Jalisco Stadium also houses Atlas which fan base is very supportive of their ex coach Lavolpe and have a South American style "Bara Brava" and most likely in charge of the Organized chants. Atlas plays second fiddle to Chivas we own them they are our bitches and yes their fans are the lowest of the low. There Femfa i said it.. On to other News.. Jimmy Goldsmith who is in charge of MNT international relations has sent a letter of apology to the USSF for the fans poor behaivor. He also said he will send a complaint letter about Lando taking a piss. Now in an earlier interview the people in charge of Jalisco Stadium "Clubes Unidos" said what Lando did was no big deal.. . http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/pls/impreso/noticia.html?id_nota=62589&tabla=Deportes
You have nothing VS, nothing. Only disputed video, that you can't produce, which was shown how many times on mexi TV where they didn't make a big deal about it. I didn't know that Fox News and Michael Moore work in Mexico because this reeks of their inacurate work. Bring it VS, bring it you have nothing. All we know is that twice mexican fans have chanted Osama, which is not disputed only the number of people chanting it is. Mexico is for Terrorists and for drumming up controversy. Bring it VS and I will recant, show the balding baby jesus wipping it out and spraying the estadio Jalisco. This is now a matter of personal honor for you and me and if you have nothing within the next month I propose a bet. If a picture or video you produce is decided to be indisputibly Lando wizzing I will pony up the 30 bucks to become a premium member and you will be able to choose my Avatar for a month. If it is not produced or proven to be Lando you will get a new Avatar of my, and others choosing. Prove you have some Cajones and accept my challenge.
Re: Re: Donovan is to blame for horrible loss I am very surprised, VS, that with a hoard of Mexican reporters witnessing this "vile" act, that not one picture was taken of the incident. Don't reporters all over the world have trigger-fingers when it comes to their cameras and unusual events? Aren't they taught that taking pictures of these happenings must be instinctive since it is their lifeblood - what puts bread on their tables? You said that you saw the video footage, but someone else said they saw it too, and it the alleged urinator didn't even look like Donovan. Please post the proof. Otherwise, it'll look like more dirty gamesmanship (gamesmanship . . . what an oxymoron in this case) . . . this time from the Mexican press.
If you saw it on-line, you ought to be able to find the link. Check your history URLs. I'm sure it's there. Until you do, this is just an unsubstantiated story.
Of course, you realize any picture produced could be Photo-Shopped to look like anything. So to me, that's still no proof. US Soccer has denied it happened. That's good enough for me.