Donovan: Bremen vs Munich; 11:00 a.m est on Gol TV

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad Gameday' started by Red_Devil22, Feb 28, 2009.

  1. Statman Crothers

    Statman Crothers New Member

    Jun 7, 2005
    Bayern Munich big slide in Bundesliga continues

    Bayern Munich's 1-3-2 result in 6 Bundesliga games (1-3-1 in last the last 5) is the worst since L-T-L-T-L-T-L in late 2001.

    Bayern Munich was averaging 2 points a game through 17 (10-2-5 = 35 points) in late December at the Xmas break. It was on track to earn 2*5 = 10 points in the next 5 games for a total of 45 through 22. That would have put Bayern Munich two points clear of second place Hertha Berlin.

    It earned only 4 points in those 5 games --- a deficit of 6. Instead of 45 points, it has only 39 points. Bayern Munich is now down to fifth place (39 points in 22 games) to the second and last of the UEFA Cup/Europa Cup slots. Wolfsburg has moved up to fourth (39 with better goal difference).

    There are two teams within three points (Bayer Leverkusen and Stuttgart) hoping to duke it out with BM for 5th through 7th place. 8th place Schalke (35) and 9th place Borussia Dortmand (34) are now within hailing distance of Bayern Munich given its horrible recent form.

    Is Bayern Munich moving toward being a midtable team?

    The next Bundesliga game (there is a midweek DFB Pokal game against Bayer Leverkusen) is at home on Saturday against weak Hannover 96 (hello Steve Cherundolo). Hannover 96's goals against (41) is almost as bad as Borussia M'Gladbach (43).

    Maybe Landon could score against Steve?

    The team has scored one first half goal in the last 8 games / 360 first half minutes. I would think that Bayern Munich management would want a coach who could figure out how to get his high paid players to be ready at the start of each game.

    Bayern Munich still is a mess in the Bundesliga. It should be in first but it is in fifth with some chance of falling to ninth in only 7-8 total games.
     
  2. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Invisible like helping to set-up both goals? Seriously?
     
  3. Statman Crothers

    Statman Crothers New Member

    Jun 7, 2005
    Sorry. I think now that you were referring to George Costanza. :eek:
     
  4. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    You mean the one where he set up both goals? :rolleyes:
     
  5. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's worth asking twice.:D
     
  6. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    After watching his games with BM, I have the same conclusion. Is he Eddie Johnson with skill?
     
  7. lynne

    lynne Member+

    Oct 11, 2003
    Ray Hudson, who is an idiot, just said that Ribery had signed to go to Barcalona next year (telecast of the Barcalona game)...so is that true?

    Seems like BMunich might be needing a little speed if that's the case.
     
  8. othakidfrmaltalomahs

    Jan 25, 2008
    RC/ALTA LOMA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    almost thrice :D
     
  9. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've seen him put the knife in the Wizards quite a few times FWIW.
     
  10. StillKickin

    StillKickin Member+

    Dec 17, 2002
    Texas
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No kidding.

    Funny how no one mentioned the other four goals Landon scored in preseason in which he didn't celebrate at all.

    It was his FIRST goal against a German side. He was happy.

    Quite a few comments in this thread are absolutely insane.

    I got a new client today who is crazy....but I'm going to leave this thread and go work with her because she makes more sense than half the lunatics on this board. Sheesh.
     
  11. Rainer24

    Rainer24 Member

    Jan 6, 2008
    Nashville, TN
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    There is a rumor, but the only source is from Sport, which is apparently not the most reputable of publications.
     
  12. Barcasox

    Barcasox Member

    Mar 26, 2008
    Club:
    Athletic Club Bilbao
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    the arabic announcers were saying the same thing, 30 million euro purchase. But i think it's at the rumor, paper talk stage, meaning who knows if there are even discussions.
     
  14. GRUNT

    GRUNT Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Lake Oswego, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Most posts on this thread remind me why I don't put much effort into the BS community anymore. Too often people have agendas, but without the honesty or self esteem required to acknowledge facts that don't support them.
     
  15. Blustar

    Blustar Member

    May 30, 2006
    Club:
    Miami FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    great post! nw stop messing around on BS and get some work done!:D
     
  16. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    Mar 17, 2007
    Colorado (formerly northern Virginia)
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Bayern Munich big slide in Bundesliga continues

    precisely ....

    and LD is going to have a heck of a time getting appreciated enough to get a contract when the team he is trialling with is in somewhat of a free fall.

    Klinsman is on the hot seat. As I recall Bocanegra and Dempsey and McBride and Keller all had somewhat of a dicey situation when Cookie Coleman was on the hot seat. It did not necessarily reflect poorly on Boca but he ended up having to leave that squad for France. LD is smack in the middle of an unstable situation (remember Freddy when he first got to Benfica?) .....

    unless he grabs the game by the balls (perhaps it is too late for that) he is probably coming back to LA ....
     
  17. m vann

    m vann Moderator
    Staff Member

    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Remember it his choosing to add stoppage time for subs. He's not bound to by the law. It's just a common gesture to add 30 second per sub. Quite frankly, too many refs add waaaaayyy too much time onto matches. ;)

    But I agree today with 6 six that's a a little ridiculous. But can you blame him? I only watched 40 minutes and I was ready to turn the game off and go on about my business. The ref probably felt the same. :D
     
  18. humin12

    humin12 Member+

    Sep 20, 2008
    Ferguson, Missouri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I find it amusing how some posters suggest that LD has had "limited playing time"
     
  19. Beazley17

    Beazley17 Member

    Dec 30, 2006
    South Florida
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. I watched so much great football this week like Athletico vs Barca, Inter vs Roma, Arsenal vs Fulham, that game was just dreadful.
     
  20. Blustar

    Blustar Member

    May 30, 2006
    Club:
    Miami FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    10 minutes isn't limited playing time?

    He had some longer spells but he hasn't started a game yet or played a full 90 minutes.

    Some players take a while to get comfortable and used to the new speed of the league. Donovan is coming from 5 years of MLS for crying out loud.

    He needs time to settle...
     
  21. Rainer24

    Rainer24 Member

    Jan 6, 2008
    Nashville, TN
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    He's going to have been there for a couple of months and leave having played the equivalent of less than two full matches. Yes, that is limited playing time. Maybe he didn't do enough to earn more, but that is a different matter altogether.
     
  22. Statman Crothers

    Statman Crothers New Member

    Jun 7, 2005
    Bayern Munich is losing big, big points to Wolfsburg, Hertha Berlin and Hamburg over the past 6 games. It is playing on a par with Dortmund and, Laverkusen, and just behind Schalke and Hoffenheim.


    Wolfsburg 1-2 1-1 2-0 2-0 2-1 3-1 --- L-T-W-W-W-W 4-1-1 --- 13 points

    Hertha Berlin 4-0 2-1 1-1 2-1 1-2 2-1 --- W-W-T-W-L-W 4-1-1 --- 13 points

    Hamburg 1-0 1-0 2-3 2-0 2-1 1-3 --- W-W-L-W-W-L 4-2-0 --- 12 points

    Hoffenheim 1-1 2-0 1-1 1-4 4-4 0-0 --- T-W-T-L-T-T 1-1-4 --- 7 points

    Borussia Dortmund 2-1 1-1 1-3 1-1 1-1 0-0 --- W-T-L-T-T-T --- 1-1-4 --- 6 points

    Bayern Munich 2-2 0-1 3-1 1-2 1-2 0-0 --- T-L-W-L-L-T 1-3-2 --- 5 points

    Schalke 1-1 0-1 0-1 1-2 1-1 2-1 --- T-L-L-L-T-W 1-3-2 --- 5 points

    Bayer Leverkusen 1-1 1-1 2-4 4-1 1-2 0-1 --- T-T-L-W-L-L --- 1-3-2 --- 5 points
     
  23. kjksccr

    kjksccr Member

    Feb 25, 1999
    San Carlos, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Honestly, I watched the game and if I was LD I would be happy to head back to LA. It is going to get ugly at BM before it gets better. If they were playing well and scoring he would have a few himself. They are just impotent in attack which is either Ribery to the byline and cutback, everyone covered, or into the feet at the top of the box with 6 defenders behind you. I don't car whether you put LD out there or any other player the result would be the same. No imagination and no real playmaker in midfield which is killing them.

    I would have loved him to make it but I won't jump on the bandwagon and say he failed if he doesn't. He is an average player in the BL and would have been lucky to be signed. The stars have not aligned.
     
  24. arkjayback

    arkjayback Member

    Mar 29, 2008
    Le Mars, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Like someone else mentioned before, there's most likely going to be a sweep through the Bayern Munich team this summer. Ribery is likely to get sold and Podolski is already headed out. With Toni and a few others aging, they'll be active.

    Before Christmas, it looked like a great move for Landon, but that club has become pitiful over the last two months, at least in Bundesliga play.

    There's no way you can mark it as a failure. Limited playing time, and when he was in, they were already down a goal. LD doesn't fit their scheme or their mentality.
     
  25. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We can never know what the coach tells the player. From reading the Landon threads, it seems that since the midseason friendlies, he hasn't been used as a speedster. Wasn't it just last week that Bayern were hucking long balls up to Landon? Landon came in for a mid.

    I don't KNOW that Klinsi is clueless tactically, or, more narrowly, is clueless about how to use Landon. It might be as mschofield is saying, that Landon is unwilling to fail big, so he fails little. Or he might be doing exactly what Jurgen is telling him to do.
     

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