Domestic Leagues 2023-2024 Referee Discussion [Rs]

Discussion in 'Referee' started by MassachusettsRef, Aug 14, 2023.

  1. MetroFever

    MetroFever Member+

    Jun 3, 2001
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    Thanks for sharing...very sorry to hear the news.

    My favorite referee. Post-Collina, I don't think any other referee was more respected by the players and coaches.
     
  2. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This sucks. Without question one of the elite referees of this generation. I hope he will be able to recover so he can end his career on his terms instead of this being his final match. He deserves a lot better than this if it is the end for him.
     
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  3. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR
    Technically this is AFC champions league. Ronaldo got a penalty awarded to him but then told the ref it wasn’t a penalty

    What do you guys do if this situation arises? Drop ball in the box? Make them take the penalty but they can just deliberately miss?
     
  4. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    If you call a penalty, they need to take it.
    But wtf, Ronaldo dives and then gets a conscious?
     
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  5. RedStar91

    RedStar91 Member+

    Sep 7, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    I'm assuming there is VAR in this competition? Kind of weird that we are still kind of asking this question.

    He knows that if the penalty is called, the VAR would send him to the monitor and, then, the referee can book him for simulation.

    He's doing this to avoid a simulation caution. He knows it's gonna go to VAR.

    If the referee says, "no penalty" on the field he gets away with not earning a deserved caution for simulation.

    By the way, you do need to listen to the attacker if he says "no penalty there."
     
  6. StarTime

    StarTime Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2020
    Wow, Skomina just a few years ago and now Brych too, two legendary referees of their generation with the same injury at the end of their careers. Very sad news.
     
  7. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR
  8. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. El Rayo Californiano

    Feb 3, 2014
    I've been watching on YouTube the RFEF's highlights of the second round of the Copa del Rey. Today Arandina (fourth division) upset Cádiz (first division). The field was a bit wet, but I guess they decided it was not unplayable. Plus, everything's on a very tight schedule--Cádiz has a league game on Sunday, for example--so the show must go on. There's also a handball/not handball in the penalty area decision from 2:09.
     
  10. RedStar91

    RedStar91 Member+

    Sep 7, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
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  11. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not just fix. Remember the argument that it would prevent the most egregious cases of off-the-ball VC because no player in their right mind would be silly enough to engage in such behavior with VAR sure to catch them?
     
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  12. gaolin

    gaolin Member+

    Apr 21, 2019


    Wild few minutes on this Serie A match in the dying embers. Watch on Paramount+ starting from the 87th minute.

    Very interesting situation for Sozza in Serie A. Foul happens outside the FoP and gives a DFK near touch line. More back and forth between both players.

    Paramount+ left a lot out in terms of Sozza and team dealing with an incensed team figuring out the restart. The whole ordeal took 3 minutes. Surprised only one yellow came out. 1 red to a substitute.

    Also three reds in the Roma v Fiorentina match.
     
  13. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    Drop ball due to inadvertent whistle (making certain it goes to the team in possession. Caution for misconduct. You simply can't call a foul for activity that clearly takes place off of FoP.
     
  14. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    Not keeping up with Law changes, eh?
     
  15. gaolin

    gaolin Member+

    Apr 21, 2019
    I know.

    Foul-like movement. Or embellishment. Or both. Should have clarified. :)
     
  16. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's kindly of you.

    Because even if there had never been relevant Law changes (a long time ago), he would still be completely wrong. In the old days, if misconduct occurred off the field of play by a player, Law 5 considerations still applied. If there was no advantage, you stopped play to issue the card. The restart would just be an IFK.

    Dropped ball for an "inadvertant whistle." My word.
     
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  17. waitforit

    waitforit Member+

    Dec 3, 2010
    Valcea
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    So Steaua had this great goal not given for foul



    At 1:40 minute there is the VAR replay.

    All the discussion in Romania is of course biased. I too am of course biased but I want to hear outside opinions
     
  18. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR
  19. AlextheRef

    AlextheRef Member

    Jun 29, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Of course a defender can legally challenge for a ball while it's bouncing in the air or an attacker is juggling it. You just can't do so carelessly or recklessly, or in a way that's considered playing in a dangerous manner. Based on the positioning of the Cagliari defenders, the risk of potentially conceding a penalty was too great for them to dive in with a speculative chance of getting the ball.

    A Cagliari defender could have tried to head the ball away when Oshimen was trying to control the ball when his back was to goal. A defender could have poked the ball away with their toe too when the ball was being controlled from the thighs to feet. Nobody was close enough or had the position to do so. This all happened super fast. Oshimen brought the ball under control and turned very quickly.
     
  20. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR


    Turkish super lig strikes again. Istanbulspor President pulled all his players off the field to protest the referee lol

    here’s what they are protesting wanting a PK for this

     
  21. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What a clown show.
     
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  22. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe we need a Turkey league thread after all. :ROFLMAO:
     
  23. El Rayo Californiano

    Feb 3, 2014
    Everyone will be on their best behavior on the 29th though.
     
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  24. mathguy ref

    mathguy ref Member+

    Nov 15, 2016
    TX
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Will the last Turkish League team left playing please turn out the lights after receiving their trophy?

    What a clown show.
     
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