Do you plan on voting for Bush?

I think it is important to have a spoon fed Connecticut yankee, pretending to be a Texas cowboy who has experience running a number of failed businesses and who, if he didn't go AWOL at the very least had an unusual military experience, running the country. Why would we want to have somebody who has actually acomplished something in their life?

As a side note, did ya see Karl Rove gave the commencement at Liberty University? That's Jerry Falwell's Liberty University. This administration is enought to make you puke.

 

Really? I'd say I was surprised, but then I remember that Dumbya launched his campaign at Bob Jones "University."

Hey, they have God on their side. They don't to have people vote for them.

 

Explain why you are voting for him, North y Mike.

 

Because I've suddenly taken lots of drugs.

 

I fell and hit my head, very hard. And I think that the existence of the middle class is way overrated.

 

Because the Holy Spirit told me.

I have to stop dropping so much acid.

 

I plan on voting for Bush for the following 10 reasons:
1. Like Bush, I believe the issue of gay marriage should be left up to the states. And like Bush, I believe there should be a constitutional ban on gay marriage.
2. I believe that the CIA's intelligence was darn good, that there are WMD and chemical weapons in Iraq. Okay, so there are no WMD and no uranium and no imminent threat against US security, but we're liberating Iraq.
3. Because Bush has the nutsack to admit torture and sexual assault on POWs were wrong, and to show that the administration is held accountable, he's backing Rumsfeld.
4. Bush accomplished the mission in Iraq. Plus, there's still work to be done in Iraq so we need to stay the course and stay with Bush.
5. The unemployment rate has remained stable under Bush
6. I like Bush's theory about how if you harbor terrorists, you are just as guilty.
7. Bush's loyal, unwavering support of the Saudi royal family, despite their obvious ties to Al-Qaeda. He knows who our friends are.
8. The way Bush values all life, including embryos. Embryos should not be destroyed, even for reasarch that could save many lives. Well, except in vitro fertilization.
9. Bush's firm moral convictions.
10. The way Bush has united, not divided this nation.


Okay, I lied. I won't be voting for Bush. I'm not a US citizen so I can't vote.

 

My modified-spejic reasoning for voting Bush goes something like this: it is already clearly established that George W. Bush is the worst President to hold office in our lifetime; getting him in for a second term practically assures us that he'll take the title of worst President in the history of this nation (or what's left of it, once he's done).

It would be a shame to deny him that chance.

 

one of the reasons I will be voting for John Kerr, tired of paying 600 dollars a month for medical insurance




Remarks by Senator John Kerry on Affordable Health Care for All Americans
As Prepared for Delivery

May 10, 2004

Edinboro University


I want to start by thanking all of you who are studying to become nurses here at Edinboro. America needs you. And when the hours get long and the work gets tough, just remember – you will spend your days bringing comfort to the sick and healing to the ill, and there are few callings greater than that.

A nurse has one of the most difficult jobs in the world. On an average day a nurse has put up with a stubborn bureaucracy, inefficiency in the system and an uncaring administration…sounds a lot like Washington!

You are about to join a profession that delivers the best care in the world.

But you are about to join at a time when the cost of receiving that care has never been more expensive for the hardworking families who need it.

Well I’m here to tell you we can do something about that. Our health care system is badly broken. And I have a health care plan that covers 96% of all Americans. But today, I want to focus on the part of my plan that deals with the most serious part of the health care crisis – costs. It’s a plan that will cut soaring premiums, cut the waste, cut the greed, and cut Americans a break. And it’s a plan that finally makes our health care affordable, our businesses more competitive, and America stronger.

Today, regular check-ups are emptying family checkbooks. Waiting for a doctor’s bill is causing as much anxiety as waiting for a diagnosis. And cutting through endless red tape and paperwork is wasting millions that could be spent on better care.

Here in the Erie area, you’re seeing plants close down that provided good jobs and quality health care to their employees for years. A lot of these jobs have moved overseas, where the cost of health care isn’t nearly as high. And for the companies that stay, the price of health care is rising too fast for folks to afford.

I just met with Albert Barker. Albert is sixty-one years old, and he used to work at Custom Engineering right over in Erie. A little while back, Albert had a heart attack. After he recovered and returned to work, Albert’s employer told him he couldn’t afford to provide insurance anymore. They re-hired him as a temporary worker, and Albert was then forced to pay $290 a month for temporary coverage. Just this month, that coverage ran out.

His wife Roseanne said “I never dreamed things could be like this. Al’s worked his entire life. Now we just pray every day that nothing goes wrong.”

No one should have to live in fear that they are one doctor’s visit away from financial ruin. And when I am President, no one will.

Since I began this journey over a year ago, I have met too many people like the Barkers. Hardworking families struggling under the weight of their medical bills. Business owners who aren’t hiring because they can’t afford to cover more employees. Veterans whose co-payments are putting health care out of reach.

I remember Virginia Noble. Virginia has cut every cost and saved every penny, but she still cannot afford to insure the eleven employees who work in her Des Moines sandwich shop. She wonders how long her small shop can stay competitive, but more importantly, she worries about the health of the eleven people who’ve helped make it a success. Small business owners like Virginia create the jobs that make America strong, and I’ll be a President who does everything I can to make that job easier.

I remember Myrtle Walck. During a town hall in Iowa, she told us how every month, she has to sign her $400 Social Security check over to her local drugstore just to cover the cost of two daily prescriptions. At 82 years old, she’s losing her only source of income to two bottles of pills. Myrtle still gives her best to her country by teaching kids how to read at a local school each week. Is this the best her country can give to her?

This is not acceptable in America.

It’s not acceptable to do nothing about total family premiums rising more than $2700 in just four years

It’s not acceptable to do nothing while these premiums are rising four times faster than workers’ earnings.

And it’s not acceptable to do nothing while families lose their savings, workers lose their jobs, and businesses close their doors because of the high cost of health care.

We need a President who knows our health care crisis isn’t acceptable and who has a plan to fix it. And that’s the kind of President I will be.

For anyone who thinks this is acceptable, another four years of this Administration is just what the doctor ordered. For four years, they haven’t made a dent in the cost of health care. For four years, they haven’t even tried. They’ve stood by while insurance companies made record profits and families faced record-high premiums. And while he’s campaigning across the country, you almost never hear the words “health care” come out of the President’s mouth.

Through their words and their actions, the Bush Administration has showed that they do not consider the high cost of health care a serious problem. I do. I still see the faces. I still remember their stories. And I have a plan to do something about it.

Now, since my wife has begged me not to bore you with the details of the plan, I’m going to ask all of you to visit www.johnkerry.com to find out exactly how we’re going to get this done. But since I also have a reputation to uphold, I’m going to talk a little bit about it today, too.

Here’s what I will do to control rising health care costs:

First, we’re going to cut your family’s premiums by up to $1000. That’s $1000 in real savings you can use to buy groceries, pay the bills, and save for your future. And that will mean more jobs and more competitive American businesses.

Second, we’re going to make sure that government bureaucrats aren’t messing with your health care. We’re going to save money by cutting waste from the health care system – not adding it. The cost of health care today is $1.4 trillion. It would be one thing if all those dollars were being spent making Americans healthier. They're not.

Our system simply has too much waste and too much fraud; there's too much inefficiency and too much abuse, too much bureaucracy and too much greed. Doctors are drowning in paperwork instead of seeing patients. Families are sitting in emergency rooms wading through forms instead of being by the side of their loved ones. And industry insiders are cutting corners and making deals that all of us end up paying for. This is wrong, and when I am President, it will end.

Today, each time you make a health care transaction, it costs up to $25. The same transactions in other industries, like a bank, cost less than a penny because of better technology. As President, I’ll bring better technology to our health care system, cutting costs for families and reducing the medical errors that cost lives.

And we’ll do a better job of holding down medical malpractice costs. No one should ever prevent patients who have been harmed from seeking justice. But we need a national system in place that will weed out the irresponsible lawsuits without taking away patient's rights. Lawsuits that have no basis in facts have no place in our courts. And when I’m President, they’ll be gone.

Third, it’s time to cut rising prescription drug costs. When I’m President., we’ll close loopholes that stop more affordable prescriptions from making it to your pharmacy. We’ll allow you to buy prescription drugs from Canada safely so you can get the same discounts that are available across the border. And we’ll negotiate a better price for prescription drugs. That’s a good deal for seniors and a good deal for taxpayers.

With these reforms, we will make real savings in the cost of health care. More importantly, we’ll save lives, we’ll save jobs, we’ll save paychecks, and we’ll save businesses. American companies will have an easier time competing around the world, and American small businesses will have more money to grow and create new jobs. We’ll build healthier households, more prosperous communities, and a stronger America.

For me, health care is an issue that hits very close to home. In the last two years, I've seen the health care system up close, the good and the bad. I've lost both my parents. And just one year ago, I was diagnosed with prostate cancer. Today, I’m blessed to stand before you 100% cured. I was lucky to have some of the best care in the world. And I believe that high quality health care should be affordable to every American.

I’ve seen the faces of America’s health care crisis. I’ve heard their stories. And those faces and those stories are what I will take with me everyday of this campaign. And if I am President, they are what I will take with me every day to the Oval Office as I fight to lower health care costs for all Americans. I will finally complete the mission begun by Harry Truman, and I will make sure that at long last, affordable health care is a right, and not a privilege, for every American.

 

another reason

Making College Affordable for All Americans
While George Bush gives tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans, students are struggling to find the support they need to succeed. Today, college students face soaring tuition costs and a lifetime of debt after graduation. Our country needs a president who understands that today’s students will be the engine of our new economy – and that every student should have the opportunity to prepare for, pay for, and complete four years of college. We deserve a president who will fight for the parents who know that their children deserve higher education and a chance at a lifetime of well-paying jobs.
John Kerry has the courage to take on Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthy so we can invest in education. He will stand up and say that four years of college should be as universal and as affordable as a high school education is today. In a Kerry Administration, if you believe in yourself enough to work hard and do what’s right, your country will invest in you.

Priorities
A New 'College Opportunity Tax Credit'
To be successful in the 21st Century economy, America’s workforce must be more innovative and productive than our competitors. That means better science, math, and job training opportunities and it also means giving every American the opportunity of four years of college. John Kerry’s “College Opportunity Tax Credit” will make four years of college affordable for all Americans. He will provide a credit for each and every year of college on the first $4,000 paid in tuition – the typical tuition and fees at a public college or university. Kerry’s tax credit will be refundable for our most economically vulnerable students and for those who receive other credits.


'Service for College' Plan
John Kerry’s “Service for College” initiative will offer Americans the chance to earn the equivalent of their state's four-year public college tuition in exchange for two years of service. Kerry will set a goal within the next decade of enlisting 500,000 young people a year in Service for College.
See John Kerry’s National Service Plan.

Stop Rising Tuitions
The Bush economic policies have left states with nearly $90 billion in budget deficits, and have forced cuts to higher education budgets, resulting in higher tuition, increased class sizes, and cuts to counseling, tutoring, and remedial coursework. Rising tuitions often mean that students have to drop out and others cannot afford to come. As part of his “State Tax Relief and Education Fund” Kerry will help states struggling to bridge deficits resulting from Bush’s economic policies with $25 billion to stop the education cuts and tuition increases across the country. The additional resources Kerry is proposing will be conditioned on better and smarter use of the higher education money. Kerry believes that colleges and universities should work to make the higher education system more efficient, without sacrificing quality, by streamlining services and reducing duplication. For example, if state colleges and universities banded together to make bulk purchases of things such as health care for employees, energy, supplies, and other services it would save millions of dollars annually.

Help Young People Prepare for College
Too many young people in America are either not planning to go to college or are not prepared when they get there. Many grow up believing that a college education is out of reach. John Kerry is proposing a new ‘I Have a Dream’ scholarship that provides an additional $1,000 for students to participate in an early intervention programs to prepare for college. Early intervention can reduce the large number of college students who drop out of college or who need remedial courses. Kerry supports high school reform including: encouraging more states to allow 11th or 12th graders to take college courses; ensuring that Advanced Placement programs are available in all schools; strengthening math, science, and writing instruction, and expanding early intervention efforts like the Gear-Up and TRIO programs for students who are at risk of dropping out of school.

Helping Students Complete College
The graduation rate at 4-year colleges has fallen to 54 percent. One factor is rising tuitions, which are forcing many students to drop out. As part of his “State Tax Relief and Education Fund” Kerry will help states struggling to bridge deficits resulting from Bush’s economic policies with $25 billion to stop the education cuts and tuition increases across the country. In addition to providing assistance to our higher education system, he also believes that colleges and universities need to do a better job of supporting students and ensuring that they graduate and are prepared to fill the jobs of the future. Evidence suggests that better counseling and support services will help keep students in college as will greater exchange programs among institutions – if a needed course is unavailable at one school. Also, students are often unable to transfer credits between community colleges and 4-year institutions, which forces students to sometimes needlessly repeat classes. Kerry will encourage colleges and universities to better target services to keep students from leaving school.

Open College Opportunities for Women
For over 30 years, Title IX has helped open the doors of opportunity in education for millions of girls and young women. Title IX has enabled greater numbers of women and girls to participate in sports, receive scholarships, and obtain other important benefits that result from participating in sports. Despite this progress, the Bush Administration is considering many proposals to change Title IX that could undercut participation opportunities and scholarship dollars for women and girls, as well as other Title IX protections. John Kerry will defend Title IX and work to expand college opportunities for women.

 

I'll be doing it just to annoy you.

 

About a year ago, Bush had my vote. Now, I can't think of a reason why.

 

As posted in another thread -

I am hesitant to answer this, not because people don't know my inclination, but because my rational is based on as much historical precedence as it is the current political season.

First off, I think the President Bush is one of a few transformational Presidents in the history of this country. Meaning, every so often, someone is elected President who transforms the United States. I think it is fair to say the George Washington was the first - transforming a set of colonies fighting for independence, to a nation. I think to a limited extent Andrew Jackson was transformational. The greatest in my mind was Abraham Lincoln. FDR qualifies, as does JFK. So does Reagan to a certain extent, and I think the current President as well.

See I am one of those people who believes that 9/11 is the end all be all of this campaign, this and future presidencies. I do consider this is a war in the sense that the United States has finally come around, and I think that is in part thanks to the President, that we must directly confront islamic terrorism. From a practical standpoint, I think that includes invading Afghanistan, and working to dismantle the financial and state support of terrorist organizations. From a strategic standpoint, I think that includes invading Iraq and toppling Saddam Hussein. Now we can argue the process, and the pitfalls, etc., but I would suggest that in a real historical sense, we are at a crossroads that can define the next 50 years and longer. The last time an event like this happened was in 1979 with the over throw of the Shah of Iran. We can debate the value of supporting someone like the Shah, but the result of his overthrow was the beginning salvo in a war of sorts in which the US was in the cross hairs. Our response has been, until 9/11, to "not negotiate with terrorists," or to send the occasional missile to hit a target. We can't afford that luxury anymore.

As far as I see it, Senator Kerry along with many on the left, believe that this is a law enforcement issue. I couldn't disagree more. No, I am not in favor of simply detaining someone indefinately. But I would suggest that a law enforcement strategy is reactive by nature. A crime must first be broken, and then the criminal must be captured. I am always astonished when I realize that while the 9/11 hijackers may have done something illegal in the months prior to 9/11, there was nothing to stop them. What they did was in the letter of the law, even if they were found to possess box cutters.

Now, as I have said, I think we have had a crosshair on our forehead for at least 30 years. Too bad we simply thought of it as a pimple. And if there has been a lesson for anyone from our involvement in both Gulf Wars, AND 9/11 is that in order to do damage to the United States, one must inflict the maximum amount of damage on us. I would suggest and fear that terrorists would more than love having a nuclear device of several to detonate in the US. In that event, God help us and the rest of the world. You think our reaction was over the top now?

Nonetheless, people say, but Saddam didn't have WMD. Saddam didn't sponsor terrorism. On the WMD point - I read David Kay's report, and while he may not have had actual weapons in Iraq, he certainly had the capability (and this is open to debate, considering recent event in Jordan...but I await more information on that). But more importantly, and something I have argued for some time, I think Saddam Hussein forfeited his right to rule a decade ago when in fact he did use WMD on Iranians and Iraqis alike. Of course, I also argued for intervention in Riwanda, and consider the Sudan almost at that point. Which, by and by, lies at the heart of my criticism of the UN.

But more importantly is the strategic value of an independent Iraq. It is a bold move, no doubt about it, and extremely difficult. In some respects, it defies history. But the action is worth the effort. And while I am sure there are those who will argue the point, there is a very good reason why Libya came around, and to a certain extent Iran decided to declare its intentions.

I could go on, but I hope I have clarified my vote for the President. There was a time when I considered that a vote for the Senator may have been as good a choice, but I have since flip-flopped on that notion. This has as much to do with my disillusion with the modern liberal tradition, and the politics of the Iraq war which I think puts our national interests at risk. What finally put me over the edge was the comparison of the President with Adolf Hitler that I saw in a sign at some peace protest. It defies history.

Finally, I would say that the economy by all measures is improving. That the President's tax cuts in part have aided in the recovery (Along with Fed policy including M1 and M3). And on social issues, well, I don't consider them all that important right now to warrant a change in vote.

Ok, so there you have it. A brief description of my thinking on why I will vote for the President. Why I won't vote for Senator Kerry is a whole different matter.

Paul

 

Because I'm rich and only pay lip service to caring about other people.

P.S. Paul, are you seriously saying that the decisive incident was a stupid poster at a rally?

If so, good lord, you are a fool.

 

Ah, so you've finally achieved Republican nirvana? I'm a corner office away.

 

I stopped reading when you compared Bush to George Washington and Abraham Lincoln. WTF?

 

Well said. Helps for me that i think Kerry is the worst democratic candidate since Dukakis. Bush has my vote because in spite of everything that is happening, i still think he is the lesser of two evils.

 

ah, I guess I shoulda put this in with the republicans who won't vote for Bush thread, but its tough to keep track of all these...

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you... the new democratic southern strategy...

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/11/politics/campaign/11RALL.html

BRILLIANT!

 

Yup.... George Bush gets my vote! Bush/Cheney in 2004!

Because "courage of convictions" means something to this President! God bless him.

IntheNet

 

Have to vote for Bush because the only other choice is Ted Kennedy aka Kerry.

 

It would really really really annoy me if you voted for John Kerry

 

Wow. Washington, Lincoln, and Bush in the same paragraph. I never would have thought that possible unless it included a sentence like "If George Washington and Abe Lincoln were alive today, they would slap the everlasting crap out of George W. Bush."

 

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