dissapeared 20'x30' US Flag

A-MEN!

I understand how BS might feel somewhat entitled and enangered since such a valuable item has gone missing after the Friendly, but honestly, the attituded thats been taken on here is only going to alienate people and push them away, and make them less likely to want to help YOU find the flag.

If someone is in fact trying to "make off" with it, im more than certain that anyone here would be just as appauled as you, and more than willing to help locate the culprite in any way they can, regardless if said culprite had any afiliations with Section 8, the Fire, or Sams Army, or US Soccer. However with an attitude such as yours, I dont see that openning too many doors for you in your search, as its not giong to make anyone want to help.


Also, im just curious as to why you are just NOW bothering to post this on BigSoccer? that friendly was MONTHS ago. Did you just very recently discover that it was missing because it did not show up in DC/ RFK for the WCQ Vs Panama? I really am just curuious.

Im pretty sure it was the BAF I was under at that match..... this one.






There was another US Flag at that match.. this one :




But im not sure if that one is even large enough to be the one in quesiton.

 

Brushes Sand....


don't be a dick... it's what you are right now


jjayg ain't dicking you around (like you are him)... he told you what happened to it... so get off your butt and figure out who was responsible for getting it there... that's probably the person who knows who has it with ussf (or the fire or whoever)

think instead of acting dumber than a rock trying to beat paper

 

couldn't agree more. brushes sand, i understand your frustration, but your tone is combative and you seem to be assuming that section 8 stole the flag outright... something i seriously don't think that they would do.

 

no kidding. I mean, what are they going to do with it? Keep it until the next US match in Chicago and bring it out again? It's not like it's an inconspicuous item.

 

I have it.

Come get it if you want it.

 

Let me guess, next you'e going to want the tatterd, faded, and ripped SAM'S ARMY banner that also appeard at the game?

 

Let me be the voice of reason <ha, ha...reason on BS?> for a second...

This is correct. I have tried like hell through my channels with the Fire and others in the organization to find the flag which was shipped to a "fan" in Chicago who many didn't trust with said stuff.

What Jay says is the truth, he boxed up the flag and gave it to someone at US Soccer. A certain BS poster was going to call the federation and find out if they had it or not, now I have no clue if this has happened but I was personally sick of searching for the flag and once a trusted friend told me he handed it to someone with US Soccer I felt I needed to go no farther in finding it.

Plain and simple, Section.8 had nothing to do with the flag and it's location for the Poland friendly. There is a single person in Chicago who bears responsibility for the current "loss" of the flag and they know who they are. When you are sent the flag, it becomes your responsibilty until it leaves in a box for the next town and USNT game...

Brushes.Sand if you want anyone to pony up the money I suggest you contact this individual yourself.

 

Brushes,

Before you come here throwing around wild accusations and forcibly requesting that people buy a new flag, why don't you verify your information first. Once you can establish that, provide some names and possible contact information so that those here who can help, can help. I was in no way involved with the flag at that game, but I'll track the ****in' thing down if it will shut you up.

 

Speaking as someone who has no freaking clue where the flag is, if I recall correctly, wasn't U.S. Soccer forced to be involved with the flag because that's the only way it could get brought into the stadium, what with the "wonderful" security we have at Soldier Field who would prevent such an object from being brought in by a fan? Or was that something else? I could probably dredge up the old threads if I didn't have a tee time in an hour.

As for the ground rules...how would most of the people here know about those...Chicago hasn't a hosted a USMNT game since 93 before this summer...back when Sam's Army was a fetus.

 

This whole post is so unnecessary.

Whoever the flag was sent to (from Dallas I'm gathering), is the person responsible for it PERIOD!

Because the flag made an appearance in Section 8, all Fire Fans are responsible for it?

It was in the city of Chicago!!! Mayor Daley tell you taxpayers they owe some money for a flag!

Whoever's name was on the packing slip is the responsible party and as far as I know Section 8 does not have a mailable address.

[violins] You see Section 8 is in the hearts and minds of all Chicago Fans. It pulses through our veins and keeps us alive no matter what the odds are! [/violins]

 

maybe saddam hussein is involved?

 

As an outside observer, and if I were an investigator trying to solve this case:

I'd have the person who shipped it to Chicago call the person in Chicago to whom they shipped it and see what's happened to the flag since the Poland game.

I'd also have the person posting on BS who last had possession of the flag in Soldier Field give a call to the person at US Soccer to whom they handed it off to after the Poland game to also see what's happened to the flag since the Poland game.

Perhaps if both parties work from each side of the transactions, these will be effective steps along the process of finding the flag. Maybe these steps have already been exhausted at this point, but IMHO it wouldn't hurt to retrace these steps.

 

I bet its at the US Soccer house bud. Give them a call I am sure they will have it. Speaking as a memebers of section 8, there are no members of the section that would just flat out pack up and steal this flag. Those type of people just dont exsist in our group. Hope that clears it up for you.

Ciao

Steve M

 

This whole thread reminds of that commercial where all those people are staring at the piece of trash on the floor by the garbage can not wanting to pick it up. A crowd gather around the trash on the floor till some guy just walks up and thorws it out.

look this is simple to solve call the guy you sent it to and you obviously know who they are and have them take care of it.

Ciao

Steve M

 

First off Section 8 Chicago or Fire Fans or even the Chicago Fire Soccer Club do not have this flag. What we do (or at least did) have was a SAMS ARMY banner no one seemed to care about. There didn't even appear to be Sam's Army members at the match to assist us in setup or hanging their stuff all day leading up to the game. Jason Glaser, who was in S8 for the majority of the US game would know better than I do and you should trust his recollection.

The larger problem this goes back to is people expecting everything to be laid out for them and taken care of so they can show up whenever then leave right after the game and assume everything is being done for them. That's not how it works, here. That's not the Chicago way.

People in Section 8 know about the large Chicago city flag (same size as this one or larger) that was lost/stolen/destroyed in the past 12 months. Some phone calls were made, we checked all over, asked questions. But sure as hell, none of us posted on a internet message board whining about it and demanding compensation and retribution.

BTW, Nothing against the vast majority of US fans who showed up and helped that day. You all did a great job.

 

Wow, and we wonder why we can't sustain a chant. It is sad that we, US Soccer fans, cannot conduct ourselves in a civil manner in order to find something that we all enjoy. This has become a series of attacks.
While I don't know much about the situation, I did ride to the EL Sal match in Boston with the person who was to receive it from Chicago. Whoever it was, and my friend was not clear, I guess he did not get the person's name, had told him it had been shipped to my friends office. It had not arrived the day before the match and thus on the way to the staduim, he called his co-workers, hoping it had been delievered. It had not.
Later, I believe he told me the person in Chicago had told him he had not shipped it and wasn't even sure where it was.
While I have no idea where it is and certainly not blaming anyone for stealing it, at least from what I posted above points to is that someone, not US Soccer, had it. In an earlier post someone mentioned the person who took responsibility for it was someone who maybe should not have been entrusted with it. At least that is what I recall reading a few minutes ago, though my head may be screwed up by all this finger pointing.
Look, this is simple, someone contact US Soccer and see if they have it, that should be done in a day. If they don't, we need some investigation done. I thought the people in Chicago would know who had brought it to the stadium. If so, simply ask them. Not blame them. After the Panama match, who knows, I may have the BAF in my trunk and have no idea--I don't recall leaving (or even my last beer) it may be in there. If it is lost and someone tells me they think I have it, I won't be offeneded, I will check my trunk!
Please, let's work together and track this down, it looks great at the games.

 

OK... I think it's time we bring Mulder and Sculley into this one.
There could be extraterrestrials involved here!

 

It's pretty plain and simple...

Fonsos was in charge of the flag and banner, he was sent the stuff. He needs to stop being a lazy ass and figure out what the hell happened to it. I believe Jayson more than anyone that he gave it to some guy with US Soccer because he's told me the same things for over a month, but Fonsos needs to follow the lead on this one. He's the one that took responsibility for both items when they were shipped to him and he himself needs to locate the flag.

So Fonsos, get off your ass and get to work.

https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2760484&postcount=50

 

Peter Falk can't be too busy right now, can he?

 

If you want Fonsos to do some work on this you might have to wait awhile. He's pretty busy helping to get a professional soccer team off the ground.

 

Liam I understand this but he's had plenty of time to do the work on this issue, I don't give two $hits what he's doing professionally. A few phone calls and it could have been solved months ago.

His inability to cooperate on this, or let people know the true story of where the flag was as he was lying to people in NE about sending them the flag, has lead the previous searchers <myself included> to run and find leads through my friends like Jay and your GM Peter, both of which certainly didn't need to be bothered with someone elses problems.

He really dropped the ball on this bigtime and his lack of actions speaks highly of him. I hope to god he treats getting a professional soccer team off the ground better or else the Storm, or his job, won't be around long.

 

I hope Chicago isn't awarded any more USA matches in the near future. Not only do things like this happen, but it seems we're always outnumbered there by people supporting the competition.

 

Always meaning the one game we've had in the last 11 years?

I'm not making excuses for anyone, fid. You know that. I just don't think Fonsos is going to get a chance to resond directly because he is particularly busy.