Dish Network Not Showing Any Soccer

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  1. TomJ

    TomJ New Member

    Nov 12, 2002
    Wash. DC
    Has anyone else realized that Dish Network doesn't show anymore soccer??? I switched to Dish Network last year from Directv, for the sole purpose of watching all soccer. Dish for years has been offering all national and international soccer up until 2002. It seems, now, that Dish Network has made a conscious effort not to offer anymore soccer. There has not been one US national team game offered and many international games, that are being offered on my cable system and Directv. This infuriates me. They offer games to get you to sign up and then once they get you, there is no more soccer. Shame on them!!!!
     
  2. Jambon

    Jambon Member

    Mar 3, 2000
    Austin, TX
    That's why I will be dumping Dish this may when my 1-year contract runs out.
     
  3. sljohn

    sljohn Member

    Apr 28, 2001
    Out of town
    Are you talking about PPV options or their channel line-up?
     
  4. UnitedNut

    UnitedNut Member

    Apr 29, 2001
    Towson, MD USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I had not noticed any decline in their soccer coverage to be honest. I still get Fox Sports World, which for all practical purposes is "The Soccer Channel" (at least as far as I'm concerned) on Dish.

    But, I'll be dropping them for entirely different reasons:

    a) Don't provided local channels here in Baltimore (DirecTV does)
    b) Didn't win a piece of the NFL Sunday Ticket package

    Later!
     
  5. kevbrunton

    kevbrunton New Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Edwardsburg, MI
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I seem to remember reading somewhere that US Soccer had gone to an exclusive arrangement with DirecTV for PPV and such things when the last contracts were renewed -- early 2002 or sometime thereabouts.

    Perhaps it had to do with the SEM partnership for soccer broadcasting or something along those lines.
     
  6. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I think you get Univision and Galavision on DISH. They show soccer. So does Fox Sports World.

    There's tons of soccer on DISH. Just because they don't show the one game you want, it doesn't mean they don't show "anymore" soccer.

    Oh, you just wanted to vent. Sorry.
     
  7. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Don't you get it? TomJ is obviously a DirecTV executive (or unpaid intern more likely) sent here to subvert the masses towards their product.
     
  8. billf

    billf Member+

    May 22, 2001
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I recently got DIRECTV and I'm happy with it, but DishNet has the same channels. I read that the only reason Sentana didn't get the Canada game on Dish was a lack of time to get the contract together. The bonus to DishNet is the extra international channels that you can get.

    I only got DIRECTV because they offered a good deal and because I didn't need a two satelitte dish to get FSW. I didn't feel like shelling out the extra cash for a two satellite dish when I can get one for free and still get FSW. I know the ShootOut wasn't great on Dish last year, but it could be entirely different this year. Both systems are better than Comcast as far as I'm concerned.
     
  9. wjarrettc

    wjarrettc Member
    Staff Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Cliffs of Insanity
    Club:
    Carolina Railhawks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. subbuteo

    subbuteo New Member

    Dec 17, 2002
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    this is kind of like someone posting on BS that bergin's site has gone down--can anyone get the link to work???
     
  11. wjarrettc

    wjarrettc Member
    Staff Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Cliffs of Insanity
    Club:
    Carolina Railhawks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I don't think they need any help. They are turning away soccer fans all on their own. Looking at SoccerTV.com, the following events are listed as PPV on Direct TV only:

    Netherlands v. Argentina
    USA v. Canada
    England vs Australia
    England vs Yugoslavia

    There isn't a single listing for a DISH only game.
     
  12. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    There's lots of soccer on Dish Network.
     
  13. wjarrettc

    wjarrettc Member
    Staff Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Cliffs of Insanity
    Club:
    Carolina Railhawks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sure there's lots of soccer on Dish...but there's about 50% more on DirecTV.

    3 years ago, it was exactly the opposite way around.
     
  14. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    I've had DirecTV for about five years. I don't recall Dish Network having 50% more soccer. Both were about the same. I think Dish Network added FSW about three months before DirecTV did. And I know DirecTV has had the MLS Shootout since it stared during the '97 season. That's why I bought it in the first place.
     
  15. Cantona

    Cantona Member

    Jul 12, 1999
    Texas/Luton/Manc
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    If you follow European football on PPV...then
    this guy is right...

    Dish didnt show the FA Cup matches that were
    broadcast on PPV cable... im not sure about
    Direct TV... They have missed out on numerous
    friendly internationals that have been on Direct TV
    and digital cable PPV. Dish used to cater to the
    niche market with all of their international
    channels and European PPV football... but it has
    declined. On another DBS board it was mentioned
    Dish had been tooling with their bandwith so the
    amount of PPV channels declined... this I dont
    know..

    I hope the pendulum swings back to dish...

    Cantona---
     
  16. ChuckA

    ChuckA New Member

    Apr 4, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    I have been very happy w/ Dish. Especially the PVR. If you don't have this or Tivo, you are missing out on tons. When we are away from home my 3 year old keeps telling me "I want to see it again." It reminds me of my football films watching days when someone or myself would say "Run that back Coach." The PVR is the best thing going.

    I have no problem w/ the amount of soccer shown on Dish. FSW shows all the soccer I want to see. Although I do want to see the US vs. Canada on Saturday. Not sure I would pay $20 to see it. I am currently trying to find a local pub that will be showing it.

    IIRC, Dish didn't show any PPV of the FA cup until the later rounds. I assumed that was because FSW was showing games in the earlier rounds. And, I think they are showing more of those games this year than last year. At least, I recall watching more of the FA cup games this year than last.

    I know that the final, two semi-finals and a couple of the qtr. finals were shown on Dish last year. I was out of town on business and missed all of those. But, I do recall they were on. I even recall starting a thread in B&M requesting info if Dish was offering the same package this year (b/c I was out of town on business at the time). I just think that the package for the final few rounds is still in the works.
     
  17. Mailrenegade

    Mailrenegade Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    Reading,PA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree. For my personal needs Dish has been more than fine. I switched from Directv to Dish a few years ago because Directv didnt have FSW. I watched FSW ESPANOL for a few months before Dish finally got FSW. I really have no desire to see any of the International games or the MLS so maybe that is where other people are finding fault with Dish. I am a huge EPL fan and sometimes I think we see more games here in the states than in England.
     
  18. bilmalk7

    bilmalk7 New Member

    Nov 29, 2001
    Eastern Pennsylvania
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ...i had DISH for about 2 1/2 to 3 years. I switched to DIRECTTV for THREE reasons:

    a. the MLS package on Dish only had saturdays, vs DirectTV had midweek and Sunday matches as well

    b. DISH did not carry the U-21 qualifying (from SC), Direct did,

    c. US vs Canada, DIRECTV only...

    three strikes they were OUT
     
  19. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    I thought he worked for FieldTurf.
     
  20. TomJ

    TomJ New Member

    Nov 12, 2002
    Wash. DC
    Soflametro is a fool. Did you not read my post or are you illiterate as well? My bet, he is both. I have been called many things, but never a Directv employee, which gave me a chuckle. In fact, I hate Directv as well. That is why I switched over to Dish Network in the 1st place. Or did you not see that in my original post. The point of my post was to let you all know that Dish Network is not offering the soccer (especially the US team) the same way they have in the past and to let them know how you feel. Of course, they still show soccer (Fox, Telemundo, Univision), but those networks are on cable and Directv, as well. Also, I would rather not watch soccer in spanish nor do I want to limit my soccer programming to that of Fox. Dish use to show it all, now they hardly show any. Before Soflametro shoots off his mouth, maybe he should learn how to read first and know what he is talking about or has that florida sun seeped into your brain?

    TomJ
     
  21. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    Oh, I thought you said "Dish Network Not Showing Any Soccer."

    Maybe you should learn how to create a thread title that agrees with what you want to convey before you post.
     
  22. rangers00

    rangers00 Member

    Jun 1, 2000
    The title of this thread is absolutely ridiculous.

    Even if Dish is not selling some PPV games that appear on Directv, Dish is still the ***SOCCER*** platform, hands down.

    Where on Directv/digital cable can you get games from all these leagues

    - Serie A
    - la Championnat
    - Greek league
    - Israeli league
    - Portuguese 1a Liga
    - Brazilian leagues
    - plus international games/UEFA Cup games involving some of these countries?

    Notice, I am not talking about an individual cable systems that carry one of these channels. I know cable systems from heavy ethnic communities usually carry channel of that language, but nowhere else can you get all these channels bundled in one system.

    Dish's ethnic programming is the vintage soccer hotbed. There are people, like myself, who don't speak a word of Italian subscribing to an Italian channel. The reason? serie A.

    Those who mention "ah yes, Dish has univision, telemundo, which has lots of Mexican soccer" completely miss the point. These Mexican oriented channels are not the differentiator of soccer coverage of dish vs directv vs cable, but the ethnic channels are.

    Directv may have a few PPV games that Dish doesn't carry, but the total # of European/South American soccer games on dish would easily dwarf Directv's from 8-1 to 10-1.
     
  23. rangers00

    rangers00 Member

    Jun 1, 2000
    Just look at this weekend. These are the games on channels carried by Dish Network:

    - Maritimo vs Benfica
    - Belenenses vs Porto
    - Perugia vs Inter
    - Chievo vs Juventus
    - Aigaleo vs Proodetiki
    - Iraklis vs Aris
    - Akratitos vs Panathinaikos
    - Olympiakos vs Skoda

    Note, there is no French league fixture this week due to cup games. Plus I don't know what Israeli league games are televised because I can't read Hebrew.

    You can't get a sniff of these games on directv. And Dish has this type of advantage practically every week during the season. No PPV games or MLS Shootout Sunday/weekday games are going to make up that deficit.
     
  24. Cantona

    Cantona Member

    Jul 12, 1999
    Texas/Luton/Manc
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    agree with you Rangers re; the satellite system
    of choice is still DISH.... but you cannot deny
    that Dish has been ignoring some high profile
    friend'lys and internationals that before they were
    before showing exclusively...so you must question
    their long term commitment to football....

    Cantona-------------
     
  25. rangers00

    rangers00 Member

    Jun 1, 2000
    Dish can have 0% commitment of football, yet it's still showing 200-300 more games than Directv and cable. So how is "commitment to football", or "selling high profile PPV friendlies and internationals" related being the soccer platform?

    Ans: no correlation.

    In the American market, ethnic channels are the way to watch soccer, as people (including Oliver) had seen this 3-4 years ago. That's the bread and butter of televising soccer. This trend will stay on, or until foreign soccer telecasts become mainstream American sports programming, which has no chance whatsoever.

    In other words, commitment to ethnic programming is virtually commitment to soccer. As for the high profile internationals, most of the Euro 04 quals of Italy, Israel and France are available on Dish Network (RAI, Israeli Network and TV5) but not on Directv (Spain's home games are also on TVE but TVE is also on Directv para todos so it's not a differentiator). Too bad Portugal didn't have to play qualifiers, otherwise Dish will beat directv by 10 more games because of RTPi. My opinion is that serious football fans can live with official competitions, like France x Slovenia and Italy x Yugoslavia, at the expense of friendlies like Holland x Argentina, USA x Canada and England x Australia.
     

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