DisCo Sucks! The 2016 MLS Discipline Committee Thread

Ironically enough, 3 of the 4 players on RSL I was looking forward to seeing in person. LOL

 

Burrito is the real deal. He's been so entertaining, and involved in about everything positive so far for the team. I know RSL gets overlooked by most, but ya'll are missing out on one of the best players MLS has ever seen if you skip seeing Burrito live.

 

Apparently Kudo got suspended for his "dive" against Houston. Guessing it will be official in the morning.

Sigi Schmid: "This time, the Vancouver guy who took the dive got suspended and fined." pic.twitter.com/5cW5mcVrqv

— Matt Pentz (@mattpentz) March 30, 2016

 

Sigh. But the Dynamo still get the loss. I know the league can't change results and Houston wasted some chances to score but this is like salt in the wound.

 

So, if it's assessed in the match, it's only a yellow. But if it's done after the fact, it's a one-game suspension? Utter insanity.

 

It's not "only" a yellow -- if the referee would have been able to call it correctly, it would have been a yellow AND the penalty kick wouldn't have been called. Vancouver's 1-0 victory then turns into a 0-0 draw with a point for each team.

VAN profited by the unsporting behavior to the tune of 2 extra points, and a point lost by Houston, as @newtex observed. Those points aren't going to be adjusted, but the punishment for the player is now appropriately more severe.

Note that FCD's Hollingshead was also punished for simulation, but it was only a fine, no suspension.

 

Same thing happened with the "entering the field without permission" violation that Gashi was suspended for in Week 2. If a ref saw it during the game (and actually, looking at the video, it apepars the AR did see it and did nothing) its a yellow card. The DisCo suspended him for it.

 

So instead of a yellow, Kudo gets a one game suspension for the ref being incompetent. Does this mean if Kudo's 'dive' didn't end up having meaningful impact on the game (the PK didn't affect the result), the punishment would have been lesser, IE just a fine?

Seems some slippery precedents being set here.

 

Well, I'm not on the committee, so I can only guess what their motivations are for certain punishments. But as I noted above, Hollingshead also 'dove' but was only fined rather than suspended, ostensibly because it had no effect on the result of the game.

 

So, if the penalty kick gets missed, and the match ends 0-0, Kudo's punishment is less severe? How convoluted do we want this to be. And in the end, you're punishing Kudo beyond his normal punishment, given he's being fined and suspended, because the referee screwed up. I get the benefit to the Whitecaps may not have been proper, but the punishment on the individual level is way over the top.

 

@EvilTree beat you to it. See my response above.

 

Why couldn't Bradley be suspended and Manuel get fined (or Manuel get a multi-game suspension). Instead the Rapids next opponent gets a fine and their opponent after that gets the suspension that will be served this week.

 

red cards for everyone!

12 straight red cards in 34 MLS matches in 2016. That's as many as last three years combined at this point in season pic.twitter.com/rxqRMqwGW4

— Kurt Austin (@kaustin01) April 2, 2016

 

It's not over the top. It has to be something that actually might discourage the players from engaging in simulation. Since all MLS fines are trivial amounts, the suspension is the only thing that might discourage future cheating. One game is actually too light a punishment.

 

The rest of the league watched Orlando City last year, and decided they should join in the fun!

 

It is obvious I tend to think the MLS and PRO are too harsh with penalties of various types. But I'm all on board with suspensions for simulation. It is difficult enough for the refs, without players acting all over the place. Watch the replay, fine and suspend them until the simulations stop.

You can't stop fouls or serious fouls because people are playing at 100% and will misjudge things sometimes. But you can stop simulation. With replay, simulation should be all but eliminated.

 

I'm positive that Carl Robinson is fine with trading a player suspension for unearned points

 

Personally I'm a fan of the red cards they're handing out, and that the Disciplinary Committee is cleaning up what the referees miss. For once the league isn't afraid to enforce the rules. It's going to be a rough few months as teams get used to the new normal, but I'm a fan. Keep the crappy, dangerous physical play out of the league.

 

http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2016/...16-red-card-numbers-not-out-place-mls-history

Stats say...

 

Rep for the DM avatar. Was one of my favorite songs back in the day.

 

Gets stuck in my head instantly.

 

Brek Shea has been suspended one game for his challenge on Dairon Asprilla. Obvious decision, IMO, that was easily worthy of a straight red.

 

(1/2) Peter Walton on RC criteria;1) speed of challenge;2) force of challenge;3) whether it's straight leg;4) distance of foot of ground

— Jeff Carlisle (@JeffreyCarlisle) April 7, 2016

(2/2) Walton: fifth criteria for red card is where on body challenge occurs.

— Jeff Carlisle (@JeffreyCarlisle) April 7, 2016

Walton says poor performing referees are given fewer match assignments going forward which hits them in pocketbook & could lose employment.

— Jeff Carlisle (@JeffreyCarlisle) April 7, 2016