DiGiamarino

I'm certain that both DC United and Metros are interested. I'd imagine that the Revolution, Rapids, Quakes and Crew would as well. I'm guessing that at least 4 teams will be in the lottery. It doesn't really matter though, as the term "weighted lottery" means MLSHQ puts a thumb on the scales and tips it towards the Metros. Oh well, at least if there's a second lottery Metros wouldn't be involved.

-Digital

 

Snorrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Yawn.

 

Not your thread buddy. Just the tin-foil hat DC fans sputtering the same nonsense for 7 years.

DIGi was in Germany- had a near career ending knee injury- (Still waiting for reports, but it is believed Hristo had nothing to do with it) has been rehabbing for the better part of a year. Trying to make a comeback in MLS.

 

Want some of this with your whine?

Tell us again how the Metros benefitted from getting a goalkeeper they didn't need and never used and a defender who played a half-dozen games before he was traded.

Do you really want the rundown again of how pathetically weak this conspiracy theory is? Like how Gus Kartes didn't go to the team that wanted him. And how Kyle Beckerman went to Miami, not DC like the old rules would have called for? And how Dallas has had as much "success" in lotteries as New York?

But you don't come out with a pro-Dallas conspiracy theory because it's not as much fun to build that strawman, is it?

Please, come up with something a little better next time. And even if DiGi goes to the Metros, why would MLS go through this sort of thing when they could just as easily - as they have done in the past - make up the rules as they go along?

 

lottery will take place monday afternoon

metros and dc are interested, possibly more

http://www.ussocceruk.com/modules.p...e=article&sid=231&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

 

I should probably wait until this thread gets a little longer before I bring up that whole Clint Mathis to the Metros deal...

(just kidding, Haig)

 

Feel free. Because that wasn't a lottery.

 

Oh, so you're convinced eh? Well let's try this ... how about I bet that the Metros get Digi, and you bet that any other team gets Digi. Even if the only two teams are DC and Metros, you have better odds. Loser buys the winner a Guinness at Summer's OK?

But if you want to disect your argument, I'm game. DC United had Mike Ammann with serious ulnar nerve problem and needed a keeper, so he went to the Metros who had a fraction of the chance DC United had ... yet everybody predicted that the Metros would get him, yes, quite strange. Why? Well, at the time Tim Howard was receiving significant interest from Europe (so they'd need a long term replacement), was nearing the end of his MLS contract, and was possibly going to miss a significant amount of games with the World Cup runup as speculation was that Arena might take a third keeper to groom for the future, and that would have been Howard. Howard ended up not going to the World Cup, resigned with MLS, and DJ Countess was traded to get the lottery player that the Metros really wanted--Griffiths. I'd say that benefitted the Metros.

The defender was Nelsen Akwari? Well he was P-40 and the Metros had none. At the time their defense was putrid, and Zambrano wanted Akwari. In typical Metro fashion, they ditched the coach and the players. There's no negative there either, as at the time Akwari came out it was fairly certain that he'd be the last Lottery player for the year, so even if Akwari wasn't retained, he had trade value as a P-40 with significant experience representing the US Youth Teams. Again, it benefitted the Metros.

The ironic thing is that the Metros wanted the one guy that they didn't get, Griffiths. I'd hardly say it invalidates Metros favoritism that they actually lost one. Even the strongest favoritism wouldn't be able to maintain a thread of legitimacy if they won 100% of them.

As for Beckerman and Kartes not going to the club that wanted them ... neither club was the Metros, so how is that relevant? Look, in a 10-12 team league the Metros win like 1/3 of the lotteries. Coincidence? You must think so. I do not. So are you up for a Guiness? No matter which of us wins it's all good.

-Digital

 

...blown ass chunks?

 

I'm not sure why somebody felt that the Crew would be interested in DiGi... We have a deep roster that is so full we had to let Dante Washington go from the team. I don't even know who DiGi would replace if we took him.

Also, FWIW, I don't think he's going to ammount to much with this post-rehab career.

 

I'm always willing to bet a beer. If it's DC and the Metros, it's basically a coin flip. You can disect it all you want, but the fact remains that lottery drafy guys have almost never gone to a team that needed/wanted them. Add in that the league has rarely shied away from sliding players to places they want to go and arguing that these drafts are fixed is even funnier.

If MLS is fixing lottery drafts, they suck at it because none of those guys have made any impact whatsoever in the league. And, if the two drafts that were "fixed" for the Metros really were, they will reap no benefits for it. If they needed Akwari so bad and the fix was in, why didn't he play for the first two or three games they had him for?

All this fuss for Joe DiGiamarino. That's pretty lame, IMHO. He'll probably be as effective as Hasimi Amani-Dover, and you think the draft will be fixed. Classic.

BTW, your time line is all off. Countess was jettisoned long before Howard inked his long term deal. Almost a year ahead of time. And he was traded BEFORE the World Cup (March 13, 2002). So it wasn't like they held onto him until Timmy was assured of not going to J/K AND signed his loing term deal. They dumped him before that, like you said, to get Winston Griffiths.

And if the league is fixing drafts to get Winston Griffiths to New York for a 17 minutes over three games, they're dumber than I ever thought. As I have said before, the lottery draft process has, at times, been the most open of all MLS processes. Yet people are so insecure, they have to create ways to complain because they don't get a personal invitation to watch a computer spit out a number.

Amazing.

 

only dc and metro entered

it's over, but it's not announced yet

 

They think it's over... it is now.

 

Note, the Metrostars also received the Burn's first round pick in 2003 with Griffiths for Countess, who of course turned into David Stokes, a pretty good prospect in his own right. So stop whining about their weighted lottery victories being meaningless.

 

Who has David Stokes?

 

Um, DC has Stokes. He was obtained with the pick that was initially Dallas', but you must feel that MLS is somehow prescient enough to rig a lottery system to benefit the Metros so they can make a trade to Dallas so the Metros can trade the pick to DC so DC can pick a top prospect, who was basically traded for Richie Williams. All this over 15 months. Ivan is a frigging genius, I tell ya.

They can do that, but they can't offer coffee mugs produced with team logos, eh?

So the Metros got Digi. Some - well 1 guy - say that it's fixed. I say it was two teams with very equal chances to get a guy who hasn't playe din two years and might not even be good enough to start for either team.

 

"We are excited that we were fortunate again to win the league's lottery process and to win a guy like Joey," said MetroStars General Manager Nick Sakiewicz.

At least he noted that they won the lottery AGAIN. What a big surprise. It's all coincidence, though. Really, the Metros will probably just waive him because they have no need for a left sided player...

 

Well that's putting your money where your mouth is.

And you'd be a big fat winner.

 

What are you talking about? They are very short on left sided players. Remember that Bob traded lefty Brad Davis...?