(DFB Pokal: Round 3) FC Bayern München gg. FC Ingolstadt 04 26.10.2011 [R]

Agree, but the two thing that Ingolstadt did provide that our reserves would not are a big crowd and a lack of familiarity. Audience and unpredictability help keep people on their toes.

 

Agree, time and also patience. Most BL teams are not Ingolstadt however.

 

Is this in response to my earlier comment about Ingolstadt vs. preseason as well? Otherwise, the point I was trying to make above was not about Ingolstadt's quality, but about how friendly games against reserve sides never bring the same jitters as a real game against an unfamiliar side. And my earlier comment was not so much praise for Ingolstadt's quality as it was using it as a comparison benchmark for the last time we saw a lot of these players on the pitch. Knowing that they are better now than they were in the preseason is not the same to me as knowing where they are in comparison to the regular starters.

Which is why I agree 100% that this game should not be used as the basis for lineup changes. Even in Alaba's case it only confirms what we have already seen from his performances in BL and CL matches.

 

I couldn't help but smile after seeing Usami's reaction when he scored. Very happy for him.

 

Müller started because he needs it... he is a perpetuum mobile... he and Lahm are the ones with the best regeneration values. And Heynckes could not risk to loose this game, so he cannot put out everybody of the first team. Heynckes tries to build Olic up again - so he did not want to let him go for more than the 30 minutes and Usami is still a big risk as he can have nice action going forward but still lacks of a lot he will have to learn.

Müller is a cup garantee - he has 15 scorers (7 goals) in his 12 cup games in the recent 3 years.

The problem Müller right now has have more to do with the left sided game set-up in which it is difficult for him to shine - not with his body or mental freshness.

But - I hope Jogi will let him at home during the international break - so he has 2 weeks without games but with a training period. Enough time to try out Marco Reus, Schürrle or whoever.

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and to answer some question from before in the thread. Müller was never in his soccer career even in youth times out because of injuries longer than one or two weeks.

 

He could have put DvB as striker or play maker and been fine. Ingolstadt has been that bad this season.

 

There is a lot of people that may dislike him here (how could you not, it's not as if he is the reason Bayern plays in CL this year?), but I do not like annoying agendas. And certainly I am always of others having an opinion but there is a line obviously where it gets blurry to full on stupidity/hate of the player is all there is left. PL basically comments and makes fun of him in every single bad game he plays, and he never bothers to ever mention him in the ones where he is scoring at will. And how he should be replaced yawn yawn yawn....

Opinions can only take you far enough until you sound ridiculous, for example my opinion from now on since Lahm sucked the last 2 matches and Cotento played so well vs the mighty FC Ingolstadt is that Contento should be our LB from now on and Lahm can only be used in rotation. This is basically the same rationale that you can use Gomez vs Petersen debate, as really there never was one to either the sane or people that simply do not hate him.

Just because I'm being an a-hole (since you deserve it), does not mean I am emotional over this, just rude. But nice that this comment is coming from the person I am talking about.

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By the way, hoping Muller plays this weekened.. so he can sit in the bench vs Napoli. Cannot wait until Robben is back and we have a bit more equilibrium in the team.

 

Imagine Robben with this fitness
WPOTY for a decade

 

LMFAO!!!

Good one...

 

LOL

 

They need to fuse together and create Mubben, the ultimate wing/SS.

 

SUCH a great idea. MUBBEN. this is like dragon ball all over again. LOL

 

So what happens to Kroos?

I am a huge Muller fan but currently I am feeling Kroos more

 

Yeah, just imagine.

Real Madrid would be unstoppable.

 

We'd then get Krobben. Sounds even better.

 

Guys we have to open the thread 4 tomorrow......

 

They will have to fight it out for one position. While I am harsh on Muller, I think with 1-2 game break and going back to his SS/AM position, he will be back to his best.

 

http://www.goal.com/en/news/596/exc...toni-kroos-i-am-not-afraid-losing-my-starting

Kroos is not afraid of having Robben back. I think though, Mueller should be more fearful than anyone else Kroos has looked good playing as a central midfielder and is growing in confidence every game. He also has a good relationship with Schweinsteiger and tracks back every game now.

robben+kroos+ribery = krobbery

 

nice lol

 

is that some kind of fruit? that i can get high on?

 

Muller tracks back plenty too. I think they bring a different look behind the striker and each have their own strengths.

Kroos is more technical and methodical whereas Muller is more direct and faster, in my opinion at least.