Detroit MLS Expansion Megathread

Discussion in 'Detroit' started by bradd, Aug 5, 2010.

  1. (They call him) RMc

    Jun 1, 2013
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Garber and Co. wanted a team in New York City proper in the worst way possible.

    And, boy, did they get it! /rimshot

    the Detroit soccer community, those who had high hopes of an MLS team in the Motor City

    It would seem the "Detroit soccer community" doesn't want MLS in town; indeed, they've made this clear on multiple occasions.
     
  2. antnee7898

    antnee7898 Member

    Oct 19, 2007
    South Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think you're talking about the Detroit City FC supporter group, who don't speak for everybody in the Detroit soccer community. Other soccer fans in Detroit were for MLS there.
     
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  3. RaisedEverywhere

    Mexico
    Aug 9, 2017
    Detroit
    Exactly. There is loud minority of people in SE Michigan who want nothing to do with MLS. They tend to be DCFC supporters. For some reason people have assumed they speak for all soccer supporters in this state. I can assure you they do not. I have ZERO doubt that if Detroit gets a team, it will have strong support.
     
  4. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm pretty sure that's not the issue.. Unless they are talking about an internal retractable roof like they have in Vancouver.
     
  6. RaisedEverywhere

    Mexico
    Aug 9, 2017
    Detroit
    Then why would they be talking about it? What, in your opinion is the issue aside from a SSS?
    That said, I can't imagine this upgrade/update to Ford Field costing less than what a SSS would cost. Maybe 200-300 million? Not sure why or how this would make sense and not a SSS that is now completely off the table.

    Also, what's an "interior retractable roof"? I've never heard of that.
     
  7. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS doesn’t have an issue with artificial turf and Atlanta and Vancouver are mostly enclosed.

    Here’s what Vancouver does for their stadium:

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    Those sheets on the side hide the second deck and gives it a more “intimate” feeling. Atlanta was going to have something similar, but they ended up not needing it, so I’m not sure why they’d care about Ford Field having a dome. What they care about is a small crowd rattling around a huge NFL sized stadium.
     
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  8. RaisedEverywhere

    Mexico
    Aug 9, 2017
    Detroit
    That makes sense. Thanks. While I don't think we'd be an Atlanta, I think the support for soccer here is huge. We would have no problem getting 30-40000 a game. Contrary to what DCFC fans would have you believe.
     
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  9. RedRover

    RedRover BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 15, 2007
  10. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. RaisedEverywhere

    Mexico
    Aug 9, 2017
    Detroit
    It sounds like MLS wants to be in Detroit. Any chance some other investor rolls in with plans for a stadium? Long shot I know.
    And do you guys really think this will put the final dagger in our bid?
     
  12. RedRover

    RedRover BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 15, 2007
    Yeah, pretty much a long shot at this point. Maybe Detroit City FC wants to make a huge leap and grow itself into a top flight team in a top flight league. But they seem to want to remain a cozy comfy little team that makes a whole lot of money with very little oversight than to think big.

    The only hope now is, as I've stated before, Gilbert, Gores, and maybe the Fords do an about face and decide to build an MLS specific SSS on the jail site. And I don't see that happening. Gilbert pretty much has what he wants in the land and he's going to do what he wants with it. Which will not be a stadium. Gilbert and his cohorts took us all for a ride, the weasels! :mad:
     
  13. RaisedEverywhere

    Mexico
    Aug 9, 2017
    Detroit
    Agreed. It sucks. I love DCFC but despise their small but vocal fanbase that is anti MLS.
     
  14. RaisedEverywhere

    Mexico
    Aug 9, 2017
    Detroit
    Can we close this thread since our bid is dead? I hate coming on here and seeing our city's name knowing full well we will not get a team unless we get a SSS. Garber stated that a couple weeks ago when being interviewed about St. Louis.
    No way Gilbert/Gores go back to the idea of building a SSS after already going away from that plan. Our only hope is new investors which I cannot see happening. So again, let's shut this bad boy down.
     
  15. DCW531

    DCW531 Member

    Jan 31, 2017
    Don't know if this is any consolation, but st louis has been in the expansion hunt on and off for about ten years, and is currently on their third ownership group. I wouldn't give up unitl MLS says no more (and means it)
     
  16. RaisedEverywhere

    Mexico
    Aug 9, 2017
    Detroit
    Thanks man. I hear what you're saying, I just don't see any coming back from this. You guys look awesome though! Good luck to you guys
     
  17. Tobias C

    Tobias C Member+

    Columbus Crew
    Mar 6, 2014
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Might as well keep a thread for a hypothetical MLS team, whether its 5 or 10 or 20 years away or it never happens. There will always be sporadic discussion about the possibility with a market this size. Good to have a place for it.

    I'm a Crew fan and will not be a Detroit MLS fan ever....but as a Toledoan less than an hour away....I'm interested in the possibility of a team because I would go to every road game we have in Detroit and any interesting friendly the team might have.
     
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  18. Footsatt

    Footsatt Member+

    Apr 8, 2008
    Michigan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Detroits not dead yet. This was posted back in April...

    “Garber specifically mentioned Detroit when asked by reporters Thursday about possible additional expansion markets, according to a transcript provided by the league.

    "We have been in discussions with, in Detroit. I'm regularly speaking to Mayor Duggan in Detroit and I think that it is a great soccer market," he said.”

    https://www.crainsdetroit.com/sport...t-dead-yet-expansion-process-adds-more-cities
     
  19. RaisedEverywhere

    Mexico
    Aug 9, 2017
    Detroit
    It's dead man. I read that quote a few months ago and didn't really understand what was meant by it. Why would he be talking to Duggan? Duggan has nothing to do with the expansion group other than being the mayor of the city that the expansion group "wants" to bring a team to. The fact that he's not talking (implied based on his comments) to the expansion group itself is very telling.
    With the emergence of St.Louis, Charlotte, and Sacramento and Phoenix hanging close behind as expansion options, we are done. And it's truly disappointing.
     
  20. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    This came up in the 1970s Soccer USA Facebook thread today...

    I don't think I will ever forgive Trevor Francis and Detroit Express for scoring 5 goals and beating the Quakes 10-0 but he was a great player nonetheless....


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    It would be cool to see the Detroit Express again.....
     
  21. RedRover

    RedRover BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 15, 2007
    I remember that game. So freakin' unreal. Trevor Francis was a world class striker playing at the peak of his career for the Express, unlike many other NASL star players from overseas.

    And yes, it would be cool to see the Detroit Express again in MLS. But that ain't happening soon, thanks for nothing, Dan Gilbert.
     
  22. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Detroit came back to San Jose exactly a week later and beat the Earthquakes 4-3. The Quakes showed better and woke up but I think Trevor still scored a goal or two in that game. He was an incredible player.

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    If Nashville and Charlotte can have one, I'm sure Detroit can put a team in place as well.
     

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