I finally have a place to ask this question. Back a while ago I was playing goal in rec league game (FIFA rules, just to be safe). I came out to try and stop a cross. Diving for it, I ended up out of position. The cross went through, and the shot was fired. Defender on my team dove in a last ditch effort to save the ball, and slapped it with his hand. However, he failed to stop the ball. He was given a yellow for what the ref called "Attempting to deny an OGSO by handling the ball." Now clearly, that's not one of the 7 cautionable offenses, and I can only assume the official offense was USB. Now, was that really warrented, since he was already "punished" by allowing the goal?
Speedy, While one would have to be there, from your description, it woudl appear that by "slapping" you mean that your teammate deliberately handled the ball in an attempt to deny a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity. Had, he succeeded in preventing the goal, then the referee would have had to send him off for denying a goal by handling, show the red card, and restart with a PK. If the referee, allowed play to continue, either because the offense was tifiling or because he elected to apply advantage and the goal scored, this does not erase the misconduct, an issue which must be judged separately from the foul or offense of handling or the result. It is unsporting behavior. If you are certain it was a tactical/cynical offense, then you need to caution the player before the next restart. If you were not absolutely certain it was a deliberate tactical foul, you might be able to justify some choice words and no caution. Whatever you do, however, if there was misconduct, you must deal with it, even if it did not result in their favor. It is important to remember that fouls are an expected part of the game. Misconduct is not. Players are there to play, not behave like thugs, cheat or ruin it for everyone else. This has no place in the game and your job is to make certain everyone knows you will not tolerate it, and that players who engage in such behavior will be sent-off, not just from the field, but out of sight and sound because they don't even deserve to watch. More on this when I respond to your dissent post. Cheers, Sherman
Thanks for the response. I read through some of USSF's training materials, and it sort of explained that he should have got the card.
They do come in handy now and then don't they. And I'm being serious, not sarcastic. I sit down and thoroughly read all the manuals, advice and position papers every season. There are things you just don't absorb until AFTER you've had it happen to you in a game (or seen it happen to someone else).
The ruling we abide by in Scotland (and the UK for that matter) is that if a player uses his hand in the box to prevent a goal, it is a sending off offense (denying a goalscoring opportunity by deliberate handball). However, if he fails to prevent the goal by using his hand, he is cautioned for deliberate handball (unsporting behaviour).
Unless they've changed it, the interpretation in the US is a little different than Europe. I believe here referees are supposed to consider individual goal scoring opportunities rather than the play as a whole. For example, if a player is fouled on an obvious goal scoring opportunity, but advantage is applied due to another player getting to the ball, the initial foul is still punished with a sending off regardless of whether or not that second player ends up scoring. On the other hand, if an attacker plays through the foul and scores, then the red card is not given. People who actually know feel free to correct me and/or clarify.
Gary, You have a typo. There is no 12.39 it is 12.22 (.twenty two) in to 2006 ATR. I need to download the 07 copy one of these days.
In AtR 2007, it is 12.39. There's no line alongside, so it isn't new. I didn't keep a copy of 2006, so I don't know if the section was renumbered. Yes, you do need to read the 2007 version. There are a lot of revisions that clear things up.