Dear FIFA: 5 WCs, 0 PKs, 3 stolen goals. We're owed.

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by Ghost, Jun 25, 2010.

  1. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    Yes, we are counting. And no, we're not forgetting.
     
  2. jamtime

    jamtime Member

    Jan 14, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which three are we counting, cuz i know I can think of more than three.
     
  3. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    I'm assuming he's counting Germany '02, Slovenia and Algeria of '10. Which others can you think of?
     
  4. WerderBremenYank

    Apr 7, 2005
    St. Louis, Missouri
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They don't owe us sh**. They owe soccer and sport in general the honesty and true competition it deserves.
     
  5. PhillyQuakesFan

    PhillyQuakesFan New Member

    Jun 25, 2007
    Delaware County, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Germany '02 wasn't a stolen goal--we still would've had to take the PK. Poland '02 on the other hand...
     
  6. teqeeler

    teqeeler Member

    Jun 20, 2009
    Wait so that ball wasn't going in the net when he out a hand on it? Not being sarcastic here but thats how I remember it.....
     
  7. Wearethecrew1

    Wearethecrew1 Member

    Jul 13, 2007
    Athens/Westerville
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Run DMBs goal that got called back against Italy in 06 was iffy, but technically the right call, although it sucked at the time
     
  8. kylesoccer

    kylesoccer New Member

    Mar 24, 2004
    boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    O PK's because we don't dive and cheat like the other teams that get rewarded for it. I love Bob Bradley's comments today about diving, I couldn't live with myself as a man if I did it. Come to think of it, do we ever see diving in women's soccer?
     
  9. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    I always thought it should have counted, simply because Buffon's fluff of Beasley's shot was the worst goalkeeping I have ever seen. Even worse than Green vs. Dempsey.
     
  10. cezukuu

    cezukuu New Member

    Mar 22, 2010
    chicago
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    maybe Ghost is talking about Jozy's goal that got called back against El Salvador, even though that was in qualifying. FIFA refs have done a fantastic job taking valid goals away from us, it would appear.
     
  11. PhillyQuakesFan

    PhillyQuakesFan New Member

    Jun 25, 2007
    Delaware County, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was, but it's not like the goal was stolen by the refs. A defensive field player can use his hand to stop an imminent goal if he wants to, he just does so knowing that he's earning himself a red card and the other team a PK in the process (in some situations that might be a smart play, although that wasn't one of them). There's still the chance the PK could be saved or miss. It was a horrible non-call, but Dallas didn't outright steal a goal from us the way the Chinese ref who is now facing the death penalty in his home country for match fixing did in the Poland game.
     
  12. Scott e Dio93

    Scott e Dio93 New Member

    Jul 1, 2006
    Montevideo, URU
    USA vs Portugal, in 2002: Figo & Conceicao giving slaps & elbows at Hedjuk & Sanneh...no red cards. Portuguse endless diving & getting way with it.

    USA vs Korea, in 2002: Bullshit penalty & bullshit freekicks.

    USA vs Poland, in 2002: Donovan's goal was legit, the pollocks used more physicaly force with fouling to score goals.

    USA vs mexico, in 2002: Blanco acting like a thug Mastroenni like 10 times, Valdes kicks & stomping Cobi on the ground, Aspe savage tackle towards Cobi ...no red card.

    USA vs Germany, in 2002: no penalty & red card for taking the ball out with the hand.

    USA vs Italy, in 2006: Mastroenni getting unfair red card, McBride getting hack, Beasley's goal was legit.

    USA vs Ghana, in 2006: Gooch commits a penalty on Ping-Pong? Bullshit!!!
     
  13. TheLostUniversity

    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Feb 4, 2007
    Greater Boston
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I count Algeria and Slovenia, this time. Italy in 2006. Poland in 2002. Colombia in 1994. Those for sure.
    I would also count The Hand of Frings, if for no other reason than that a PK so often results in a goal that a denial of one is close to a taking away of the other [in terms of expected result]. But, if we don't count it, then that leaves 5 goals taken away in 5 WCs. ..... If that doesn't sound so bad [it does to me, but there's always a contrary view] let's think about what percentage of goals scored in those WCs these would have represented.
     
  14. Scott e Dio93

    Scott e Dio93 New Member

    Jul 1, 2006
    Montevideo, URU
    Oh yeah. Lalas scored a legit goal.
     
  15. boliviankidd622

    Apr 27, 2009
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    de rossi got his red card and mcbride was offsides..if you see it he's standing in front of buffon and 'obstructing' his view..thats offsides and mastroeni didnt need to tackle pirlo in such a manner
     
  16. fingersave

    fingersave Member

    Sep 28, 2009
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    People forget that one, but Lalas scored a ridiculous goal in 1994. It was stunning.
     
  17. withoutthee88

    withoutthee88 Red Card

    Aug 23, 2008
    Chicago/USA
    I'd rather win it fair and square. Although it's clear that if someone is getting screwed, it will be the USA once again. :(
     
  18. teqeeler

    teqeeler Member

    Jun 20, 2009
    true well said
     
  19. StarvingGator

    StarvingGator Member

    Jun 22, 2007
    The Hospital Bar
    It's really astonishing that we've never been awarded a PK in the World Cup. Mind boggling, really. We've played something like 18 WC matches since '90. Not a single PK. That's got to be way below average. Ghana must average 2 a match!
     
  20. BlitzSpiele

    BlitzSpiele Member

    Sep 7, 2007

    Abby Wambach doesn't use her full balance ability in the box, shall we say. I haven't see her dive, but I have seen her surrender to gravity whenever she takes contact or gets a jersey pull.
     
  21. gettysburg32

    gettysburg32 New Member

    Jul 19, 2003
    Around VA and PA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And we're playing the last African team in this World Cup. I'll be happy if a phantom PK for Ghana is the only time we're royally screwed today.
     
  22. FormerGermanGuy

    Mar 1, 2001
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's quite a stilted outlook, mixing some legitimate gripes with several calls that were closer to 50-50 but went against us. I don't keep track of slights against me (better to let them go in my opinion), but a few counterexamples spring to mind. O'Brien's non-handball and pk vs Mexico, at least one bad offsides call stopping a breakaway in this tournament, Dempsey not getting red-carded in minute 1, Altidore mercifully not getting a second yellow for falling down when a defender breathed on him right in front of the ref... I'm sure there are others that we've glossed over over the years. We always remember the bad calls that go against us but seldom speak of the others. By the way, Mastroeni deserved his red for a boneheaded hack-job. Get over it.
     
  23. FormerGermanGuy

    Mar 1, 2001
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In WWC '98, Saint Mia Hamm was a diving fool once she got in the box. Any contact at all and she was down. It wasn't spoken of much but it was sad to watch.
     
  24. MeastFootball

    MeastFootball New Member

    Sep 2, 2009
    Virginia
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well we got our PK.
     
  25. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    And another "woe was me" thread...??? :confused:

    :rolleyes:
     

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