They don't owe us sh**. They owe soccer and sport in general the honesty and true competition it deserves.
Germany '02 wasn't a stolen goal--we still would've had to take the PK. Poland '02 on the other hand...
Wait so that ball wasn't going in the net when he out a hand on it? Not being sarcastic here but thats how I remember it.....
Run DMBs goal that got called back against Italy in 06 was iffy, but technically the right call, although it sucked at the time
O PK's because we don't dive and cheat like the other teams that get rewarded for it. I love Bob Bradley's comments today about diving, I couldn't live with myself as a man if I did it. Come to think of it, do we ever see diving in women's soccer?
I always thought it should have counted, simply because Buffon's fluff of Beasley's shot was the worst goalkeeping I have ever seen. Even worse than Green vs. Dempsey.
maybe Ghost is talking about Jozy's goal that got called back against El Salvador, even though that was in qualifying. FIFA refs have done a fantastic job taking valid goals away from us, it would appear.
It was, but it's not like the goal was stolen by the refs. A defensive field player can use his hand to stop an imminent goal if he wants to, he just does so knowing that he's earning himself a red card and the other team a PK in the process (in some situations that might be a smart play, although that wasn't one of them). There's still the chance the PK could be saved or miss. It was a horrible non-call, but Dallas didn't outright steal a goal from us the way the Chinese ref who is now facing the death penalty in his home country for match fixing did in the Poland game.
USA vs Portugal, in 2002: Figo & Conceicao giving slaps & elbows at Hedjuk & Sanneh...no red cards. Portuguse endless diving & getting way with it. USA vs Korea, in 2002: Bullshit penalty & bullshit freekicks. USA vs Poland, in 2002: Donovan's goal was legit, the pollocks used more physicaly force with fouling to score goals. USA vs mexico, in 2002: Blanco acting like a thug Mastroenni like 10 times, Valdes kicks & stomping Cobi on the ground, Aspe savage tackle towards Cobi ...no red card. USA vs Germany, in 2002: no penalty & red card for taking the ball out with the hand. USA vs Italy, in 2006: Mastroenni getting unfair red card, McBride getting hack, Beasley's goal was legit. USA vs Ghana, in 2006: Gooch commits a penalty on Ping-Pong? Bullshit!!!
I count Algeria and Slovenia, this time. Italy in 2006. Poland in 2002. Colombia in 1994. Those for sure. I would also count The Hand of Frings, if for no other reason than that a PK so often results in a goal that a denial of one is close to a taking away of the other [in terms of expected result]. But, if we don't count it, then that leaves 5 goals taken away in 5 WCs. ..... If that doesn't sound so bad [it does to me, but there's always a contrary view] let's think about what percentage of goals scored in those WCs these would have represented.
de rossi got his red card and mcbride was offsides..if you see it he's standing in front of buffon and 'obstructing' his view..thats offsides and mastroeni didnt need to tackle pirlo in such a manner
I'd rather win it fair and square. Although it's clear that if someone is getting screwed, it will be the USA once again.
It's really astonishing that we've never been awarded a PK in the World Cup. Mind boggling, really. We've played something like 18 WC matches since '90. Not a single PK. That's got to be way below average. Ghana must average 2 a match!
Abby Wambach doesn't use her full balance ability in the box, shall we say. I haven't see her dive, but I have seen her surrender to gravity whenever she takes contact or gets a jersey pull.
And we're playing the last African team in this World Cup. I'll be happy if a phantom PK for Ghana is the only time we're royally screwed today.
That's quite a stilted outlook, mixing some legitimate gripes with several calls that were closer to 50-50 but went against us. I don't keep track of slights against me (better to let them go in my opinion), but a few counterexamples spring to mind. O'Brien's non-handball and pk vs Mexico, at least one bad offsides call stopping a breakaway in this tournament, Dempsey not getting red-carded in minute 1, Altidore mercifully not getting a second yellow for falling down when a defender breathed on him right in front of the ref... I'm sure there are others that we've glossed over over the years. We always remember the bad calls that go against us but seldom speak of the others. By the way, Mastroeni deserved his red for a boneheaded hack-job. Get over it.
In WWC '98, Saint Mia Hamm was a diving fool once she got in the box. Any contact at all and she was down. It wasn't spoken of much but it was sad to watch.