Pre-match: DC United v Philadelphia Union 10-14-20

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  1. Wyrm2

    Wyrm2 Member

    Apr 29, 2007
    Silver Spring
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I keep telling myself Pines needs to learn from mistakes....
     
  2. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Way to get it back, Pines!
     
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  3. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    Pines was determined to get a goal when he got to that side of the field.
     
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  4. Wyrm2

    Wyrm2 Member

    Apr 29, 2007
    Silver Spring
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A goal, off of a set piece (a really nice one). Yeah!
     
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  5. Wyrm2

    Wyrm2 Member

    Apr 29, 2007
    Silver Spring
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    and now a PK...
     
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  6. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    VAMOS! 2-1!!!
     
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  7. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    a lead has been had after a penalty for handling
     
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  8. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Geez, that was crushed.
     
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  9. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    ********

    2-2
     
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  10. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    I'm not sure the deflection mattered with the power on that thing.
     
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  11. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    Yow coming on for Fisher.
     
  12. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
  13. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seitz *might* have had a little chance without the deflection, but there was no chance once it hit off Brillant.
     
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  14. griffin1108

    griffin1108 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 5, 2003
    Virginia
    The best game for Asad in 2020, he actually looked lively and engaged. Fisher also showed very well, maybe his knee is coming back fully. Pines was lucky to get the chance to score, if this had been ice hockey after the cluster******** in box, he would have skated to the bench and remained there for the remainder of the game. Really poor.
    I thought the PK was soft, but McKenzie's shot was GOTW material. Probably a draw was the "just" result.
    I'm done with Kamara, he just doesn't fit, doesn't have it or whatever, but Rivas is much better. Sorga was fine, in fact, given that this was DCU, that was about as good as it probably can get in 2020. I do have to say that since Ashton took over, this team actually plays attacking soccer and can look dangerous at times.
     
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  15. Hedbal

    Hedbal Member+

    Jul 31, 2000
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorga really, really wanted to take that PK.
     
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  16. Dizi

    Dizi Member

    Feb 13, 2015
    Club:
    DC United
    I feel so conflicted knowing that if the team does well, Ashton gets the job...which would be catastrophic for long term success

    Yet these players are FIGHTING for the first time in years and I can't lie: they actually look like an MLS quality team

    Not great, but like they belong

    I took great pleasure watching how many different ways they stole the ball off PHI players feat or forced them (intelligently) into a poor pass which we easily gobbled up

    Philly guys were having legit problems with us all over the field!

    Don't get me wrong

    I wanna see them do more & there are gaping holes in the squad that need patching but, some of these guys can really play. They just looked lost under Olsen.
     
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  17. Freestyle2000

    Freestyle2000 Moderator

    Feb 6, 2000
    LA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Granted, this is only after two games -- two games in which we've had some important pieces back for the first time in a while. But it looks like Ashton is bringing a simplicity to the game meets are players where they are rather than where they "should" be. There's no 3-5-2-which-plays-like-a-5-3-2-except-when-the-9-drops-to-the midfield looking formations. It's a 4-4-2. Players do what they do in a 4-4-2. We don't have the talent to be successful playing this simply, but we don't look lost. Am I high? I may be high.
     
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  18. Aconti2

    Aconti2 Member

    Apr 10, 2011
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the notion around here has been that the players don't look like they are coached or have a plan but CLEARLY that WAS the plan before.

    I'm sure most what is happening right now is the players being told to go out and play soccer and it is so much better. Players were covering for each other picking up loose balls, making runs, making crosses. All these little things made the game so much more entertaining. We still kind of suck because the players are incredibly rusty! If they had more time to play this way all of those passes and runs would be much more in sync. They are starting over.
     
  19. John L

    John L Member+

    Sep 20, 2003
    Alexandria, VA
    It’s odd in some sports what a change in coaches can do. In hockey a pretty good coach has a bad stretch and get canned; the the team turns around and wins five in a row.

    Also, there’s a message that’s been sent, even if unintentionally. If they can fire the coach, they can fire anybody.
     
  20. Section 107

    Section 107 Member+

    DCU
    United States
    Jul 18, 2018
    well, it seemed to me they are playing better, and with more energy, and bite, but once again snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
     
  21. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Giving up a rocket of a golazo for a tie is "snatching defeat from the jaws of victory"?
     
  22. Section 107

    Section 107 Member+

    DCU
    United States
    Jul 18, 2018
    #47 Section 107, Oct 15, 2020
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2020
    Yes, a glolazo, no doubt.

    I was referencing more that bad luck is just par for the course for our merry band of ne'er do wells. And we know that teams that just aren't very good rarely get a break. Even though he wasn't ready for it, it would have smashed Seitz in the chest but for the deflection off Brillant that put it out of reach.

    In a more rational view - I think that ball should never have gotten to him. I think Mora could have done better on Bedoya, Asad on Ilsinho (I suspect Asad didnt think Ilsinho would to get to the ball so he was not more aggressive). And then Canouse misplays the cross (to be fair, I think this was just unlucky - if it had been Pines I might not be so forgiving), directing it to the top of the box and into the path of Mack.

    so, yeah, with just 3 minutes left in regulation, we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Its just the way of this season....
     
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  23. Eastern Bear

    Eastern Bear Member+

    Feb 27, 1999
    Great Falls, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    I missed the game last night (literally forgot about it until it was over) so I didn't get to see how the team would do in posession, transition, and attack. I was really curious about the behavior of our centerbacks and if they continued to try and posess the ball instead of go over the top. Did they distribute through the middle? or via fullbacks? Did Ashton try to create overloads on the wings again? High or medium block on defense?
     
  24. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But Ashton was the real issue and not Olsen, right?

    Don't get me wrong - we still need to fire everyone.
     
  25. Yowza

    Yowza Member+

    DC United
    United States
    Oct 23, 2019
    Arlington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The centerbacks tried to play on the ground, in fact it's what led to the first goal for Philly when Pines tried to play out of his own 18 and was intercepted. Personally, I'm fine with that, though he can't keep turning it over every game, there is a breaking point.
    They played a mid block, and looked to press high a few times a game (once leading to a turnover that created their second goal). The press gave Philly problems at times.
     
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