David James on his way to the States

Discussion in 'Premier League: News and Analysis' started by CyphaPSU, Jun 19, 2003.

  1. CyphaPSU

    CyphaPSU Member+

    Mar 16, 2003
    Not Far
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    West Ham keeper David James is on his way to the USA....

    ...not to train with an in-season MLS side, but to train with an NFL club! He accepted the invitation from the Miami Dolphins to attend their training camp next week in Miami. It's not surprizing at all that he would accept an invitation to sunny and warm Miami.

    NFL teams don't just ask anyone to come into their mini-training camps unless they have an invested interest in a player. I'm thinking the Dolphins want to see if he'd make a good kicker or a special teams player. But James seems to be there only to put himself "up against some of the best athletes in the world," and to "apply any tips or insights that I can gain to my career as a professional footballer.”


    I just find this all kind of interesting. I wonder what will be made of his visit.

    The story:
    http://www.ussocceruk.com/modules.p...e=article&sid=296&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
     
  2. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    He's coming here to work out, not to try out. That's the story, and that's about all I expect to be made of his visit. I mean, he said, as you noted, "American Football has always shown the way forward in terms of conditioning and performance and I am keen to apply any tips or insights that I can gain to my career as a professional footballer."... which sort of implies that he's not going to be switching sports anytime soon. If anything, it's going to be the equivalent of an NFL Fantasy camp, only a bit more strenuous.
     
  3. Golasso

    Golasso New Member

    May 6, 2003
    Somewhere in Texas
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He'll work out with wide receivers...

    He can barely catch a round ball -- I'd hate to see what he'd do with an oblong one.
     
  4. whirlwind

    whirlwind New Member

    Apr 4, 2000
    Plymouth, MI, USA
    MLS doesn't need any backup goalkeepers anyway... :)
     
  5. pething101

    pething101 Member

    Jul 31, 2001
    Smyrna, Ga
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually, it is a devious plot by Steven Bywater to eliminate James from the number one spot. Throw one over the middle to James and let some middle linebacker take out the leg a la what happen to Danny in the Karate Kid at the Tournement.

    Pretty clever if you ask me.
     
  6. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Its not entirely out of the realm. Remember, Tony Meola was a punter for the NJ Jets for 2 years, I think
     
  7. rksehga

    rksehga New Member

    Aug 13, 2002
    nyc
    wasn't it more like 2 games, of which bother were preseason. I thought he slipped on the opening kickoff and barely knocked the ball off the tee.
     
  8. NEKSoccer

    NEKSoccer Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Long Island, NY
    He was a kicker. I don't think he was ever a punter.
     
  9. billyireland

    billyireland Member+

    May 4, 2003
    Sydney, Australia
    Yea, like the Dolphins need a kicker... I mean, Olindo Mare SUCKS!
     
  10. subbuteo

    subbuteo New Member

    Dec 17, 2002
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    and he was only a kicker in the preseason. He never made their team.
     
  11. RoverMax

    RoverMax Member

    May 4, 2003
    NYC
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    James is coming to see new ways of working out or something like that. The Dolphins said they would work him at quarterback, kicker, and something else (I think linebacker). He is only coming for one day, and I think it is more of a publicity stunt than anything else. James says he wants to learn more about the game.
     
  12. CyphaPSU

    CyphaPSU Member+

    Mar 16, 2003
    Not Far
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, just to work out. what I wonder is how did this even happen? I don't think an NFL team just sits around wondering "what foreign soccer player can we bring into camp for a day to have him work out for us?"

    James must have had connections somehow with someone in the Dolphins organization.




    Go Birds.
     
  13. patrickm

    patrickm New Member

    May 3, 2003
    usa
    what exactly is he going to do there? subject himself to having his head knocked off in a 7 on 7 drill? i think not. he will not participate in any way in actual american football related drills.by the way, for all of you dopes out there who compare american football to rugby- keep dreaming. american football is far more physical and violent. it is a game of violent high speed collisions. rugby is a tough game, but it not nearly as tough as american football.
     
  14. Mobile

    Mobile New Member

    Jul 29, 2002
    Melbourne
    Heh. That's true. You have to be really tough to wear those helmets and shoulder pads. Oh, and the tight shiny pants, let's not forget those.
     
  15. patrickm

    patrickm New Member

    May 3, 2003
    usa
    and that proves the point exactly. if they didn't wear the protection, guys would be getting killed/maimed on a regular basis. guys get paralyzed playing american football, unfortunately. guys get multiple concussions, major injuries to their legs, etc.how often do players truly get phucked up playing rugby and/or aussie rules and/or gaelic football?
     
  16. patrickm

    patrickm New Member

    May 3, 2003
    usa
    the tackling in american football is far more vicious. in rugby the grab at each other and try to gently drag guys dow. in maeican football the tacklers often lead with forearms or their helmets, at high speed, to a probe player. a receiver, coming across the middle, for example, focusing on catching the ball while a linebacker or safety has locked on to him for a major shot. i've never seen that in any game other than american football or ice hockey, another man's game.
     
  17. jumhed

    jumhed Member+

    Mar 26, 2001
    London
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Hmmmmm. It's true that Yank football hits hardest. But I feel that if the players didn't wear armour, they wouldn't be able to hit so hard. It's psychological. The worst fouls in soccer and rugby are those that aren't expected by the victim. He hasn't 'prepared' himself for the impact. In Yank Footie the players can expect to be hit from anywhere at almost any time, so they're in a constant state of alert. And the padding is a psychological (and of course, physical) help too. They know it's there.

    The genesis of the sports is interesting. In Rugby, when players were getting seriously hurt they tweaked the rules (as they did in soccer), in Yank Footie they seemed to just pile on armour. It's a great sport, but I find it a little slow.

    I hope David James is seriously injured....no wait! It might count him out of England, but then he won't play for Westahhmmmm either! Ooooh, dilemma!

    And did anyone see us beat the Aussies on saturday? Ha ha! Great stuff!
     
  18. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    here's a man who clearly knows what he's talking about. Obviously played lots of rugby in his time.
    There's a bit of debate in the game these days about the level of violence, but for many forwards having players stamp their studs (cleats for you) down on someone's head is just seen as being part of the game.
    As for hockey, I've seen guys punch the hell out of each other for minutes on end, only for both to walk away unmarked due to the amount of padding. To be honest all the checking and fighting going on really ruins the sport as a spectacle, but it's 'exciting' for those lacking the attention span to wait the minute or two between each shot.
     
  19. patrickm

    patrickm New Member

    May 3, 2003
    usa
    i'm not referring too the stupid fighting in hockey. i'm referring to the checking. hockey is a very physical game, and by the standards of every other game i have seen, a very dirtyn game. few hockey players have many teeth, for one thing
     
  20. patrickm

    patrickm New Member

    May 3, 2003
    usa
    american football IS slow, i agree with that. stop and start, over and over. fortunately, it is a great televisionn sport because the 30-45 seconds between plays allows for replays and analysis
     
  21. Frieslander

    Frieslander Member
    Staff Member

    Feb 14, 2000
    North Jersey
    I was going to point out that this thread should be in the "lower divisions" forum but it looks like it really should be in "other sports."
     
  22. RoverMax

    RoverMax Member

    May 4, 2003
    NYC
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I heard he was invited because the Dolphins heard he was a fan or something like that. With the growing popularity of American football in Europe (although the growth is small) the Dolphins probably thought they could get attention by inviting him, so they did. And now look, people are talking about this. James will get to see some of the best football players there are, which includes the best running back in the league along with 8 Pro Bowlers on defense. GO DOLPHINS!!
     
  23. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Eh?
     
  24. Prenn

    Prenn Member

    Apr 14, 2000
    Ireland
    Club:
    Bolton Wanderers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    What? Are we back in 1983 again? That's when its popularity peaked.
     
  25. Mobile

    Mobile New Member

    Jul 29, 2002
    Melbourne
    I remember in 1987/8 when I was in first year at school (or Year 11 or whatever the hell it's called now) there was a 6-month spell when everyone though American Football was cool. People wore those crappy little keyrings in the shape of different teams' shirts and I think I even had a Miami Dolphins top at one point. Of course nobody at my school had ever so much as watched an American Football game (despite Channel 4's valiant efforts) and the 'craze' died out as quickly as it began.

    It is a shit sport.
     

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