Das Reboot and the Road to UEFA Nations League & EC2020

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Ger90, Jun 27, 2018.

  1. White/Blue_since1860

    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I dont have the time to translate everything but google translate should help to understand the infighting that's currently going on within DFB - also already before last Tuesday. One of the reasons why they cant act is that the house is divided

     
  2. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I could be wrong but maybe DFB are going down the root where loew resigns rather than having to sack him and pay out a hefty contract clause
     
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  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  4. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Blimey, are the hierarchy at the DFB blind!, it's plain obvious we've stagnated since the last world cup, we've not beaten any team of note and with France and Portugal at euros it's paramount get a new guy to implement his ideas in the short time we got to euros
     
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  5. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Another bullshit presentation will achieve nothing.
     
  6. Thomsen

    Thomsen Member+

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Meh, it's at least good to know that Löw's tarnishing his own reputation for the rest of his life by his moral decisions. He's currently digging his own grave and sinking the ship. I've got no sympathy for him anymore :unsure:
     
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  7. White/Blue_since1860

    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Spiegel reports they know from several unnamed players that they are arriving at the NT "full of anxiety they could make mistakes". Something they dont feel at their clubs
     
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  8. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    The DFB is an absolute shit show, no wonder the German public could care less about this garbage nowadays. Even the Austrian federation looks like a well oiled machine compared to this.
     
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  9. White/Blue_since1860

    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Guys you just need to believe.... St. Nicolas will bring the presents a little earlier this year: 4th Dec instead of 6th

     
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  10. Berchtesgaden

    Berchtesgaden Member+

    May 18, 2011
    Milwaukee
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Trump out and now maybe Löw as well. Can I dream Favre might be a final gift.
     
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  11. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Karo Viertel
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    LOL

    But Löw gave that killer powerpoint presentation back in '18!
     
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  12. rj123

    rj123 Member

    The team with the most German NT players
    Germany
    Nov 21, 2010
    Winnipeg, MB
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Here you go:
    Löw and Bierhoff must deliver: The DFB presidium is calling for a concept to quickly overcome the crisis of coach and director. Within the association, the power struggle for leadership continues. By Anno Hecker and Michael Horeni.
     
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  13. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Deliver when? , next year's euros?, either way loew will walk away after euros that is a certainty, we demand change now and with the right leadership and new faces in the coaching set up we have the personnel with Muller boetang hummels to.mount a serious challenge at euros.
     
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  14. White/Blue_since1860

    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I was referring to the actual article. Maybe someone can throw it into Google translate
     
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  15. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    So what now - ? What’s happening and decisions yet ?

    Best would be if you think logically about it for low to leave right away .

    To try and build a team for 2022 with loew or even 2024 make no sense so to try and save the 2021 then at least start with a new coach . Who ever takes over can’t do any worse anyway .

    New coach could then pick the best players for 2021 and as World Cup is just another year away we should concentrate on the next 2 years .

    Would make no sense to keep löw for another 8 months and then give the new coaxh 1 year to prepare for the World Cup .

    Might as well give the new guy a 2 year Go .

    DFB should look at it - löw has had his time for 2 years now and could not produce - let’s try them best we can for 2021 and then hopefully 2022 the team is settled .

    They should not even think about 2024 right now
     
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  16. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Ahhh I read December 4 ... is slide show date : ok got the previous posts now
     
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  17. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Your post has logic in to it and it is the best way forward for the team and the possible new coaching set up if loew is relieved of his duties come December
     
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  18. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Karo Viertel
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    He won't be removed - this is just another pantomime to give aircover to the board.
     
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  19. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Yes agree, loew-bierhoff will come out with their deluded presentation just like post wc18, but we must hope the buffoons at DFB bang their heads prior to the meeting and sack him and his side kick
     
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  20. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    The DFB board has already seen everything Low and Bierhoff have to offer, whatever bs PowerPoint presentations they come out with nothing will change.

    Even recalling Muller, Hummels and Boateng will not solve all the problems. Under a bad coach no player will perform at their best, as witnessed with all 3 at WC 2018 and under Kovac at Bayern for Muller and Boateng.

    The decision should have been made already.
     
  21. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Big clubs or any club actually have a meeting and think about what is best for the club - then they fire the person who is not performing - why not dfb .

    16 years is really enough ! Just fire him and move on . They already said after euros he will
    Leave so why not now already .

    Just put us all out of our
    Misery and fire the guy.

    Every team and every company needs a new leader after a long period . If things don’t go well for an extended time - it’s time to make room for a new leadership . It’s pretty simple .

    New ideas new philosophy new energy , a new will to succeed .

    Please please dfb get some sense - you have a responsibility to the nation and to the fans . It’s time for a new era!
     
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  22. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Couldn't agree more, I know where clutching at straws to get him fired next month but in reality like you stated hes been a disaster in the last 2 plus years, what gets me angry is how selfish loew is!
     
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  23. White/Blue_since1860

    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think issue with firing Low is who will replace him?

    sure we say Rangnick but would he want to take over without much prep this close to a tourney?

    Feels like from coach perspective getting NT post tourney is more ideal than pre. Less pressure and more time to implement.

    at this point Kuntz for interim coach might make the most sense since he's already in dfb and knows the players. But then most reports from 2018-present always say dfb doesn't want to lose Kuntz from u21.....sounds more like excuse to keep Low.

    with corona, all U15-U20 coaches are doing nothing as no games can easily promote someone from there to take over U21.

    will be curious to see who they hire in a Low is fired now case.
     
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  25. White/Blue_since1860

    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Imagine it is uncertain if you can keep your job and they hold a meeting with all your bosses to decide on this. But instead of speaking for yourself, they say we are not even talking with you anymore but instead, your group manager is called in and asked to defend your work. I dont know about you guys but I'd quit that job myself
     

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