Das Reboot and the Road to UEFA Nations League & EC2020

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  1. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I mean I get it you don't want to talk about Muller and co and you don't have to. But I think it's interesting to get a more detailed view of the background stuff and it still about the present too.

    all I get from this is how shit of a coach Low is and his piss poor player management is.
     
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  2. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Yeah that is true you get no argument from me either but Low for the most part I guess he also wants to incorporate the younger players into the set up as well
     
  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Low could easily have incorporated younger players post CC17 but he didn't.

    why is Reus still on the team but not Muller? I like Reus and he would have been world class if it wasn't for his injury proness just like how Gotze would have been world class if it wasn't for his myopathy. But NT wise, Reus hasn't done much due to injury problems.

    same for Neuer, Kroos, Hector, Gundogan why are they still on the team?Seems like Muller/Boa/Hummels were a sticking point so Low got rid of them. Which is pathetic because he's the coach and he sees conflict brewing between young and older and his answer is to ditch the older ones under the bus and move on. I don't see that shit working on a coach like Jupp Heynckes .

    I don't care about young or old. But about the best possible players playing. Now we are supposed to believe. We don't need Muller more Draxler, lol.
     
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  4. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    this is same coach who left out Sane of the WC but now talks about young players.

    and to think had Euro 2020 been this Summer, Seems unlikely Sule, Sane or Reus would have made it in time.

    so we play with our current CBs and current attackers minus 2, yikes it really would have looked ugly.
     
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  5. RacMan93

    RacMan93 Member

    Jul 15, 2010
    Montreal
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Could a Kimmich Goretzka Brandt midfield work?
     
  6. PierreLittbarski

    1. FC Köln
    Germany
    Sep 9, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #5731 PierreLittbarski, Jul 11, 2020
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2020


    I don’t really get the Reus hate thing on here. Why can’t Reus slide into the Klose/Podolski role where he’s just there to score a bunch of goals off the bench/in select spots. He’s not 32 until next may!


    Plus Muller won't expect that role.


    My starting 11 is


    GK: Neuer
    LB: Halstenberg
    CB : Ginter
    CB: Sule
    RB: Klostermann
    DM: Kimmich
    CM: Kroos
    AM: Goretzka
    RW: Gnabry
    LW: Sane
    FW: Havertz


    Bench : Ter Stegen, Gosens , Reus , Can, Brandt ,Werner , Amiri, Rudiger , Leno, Demirbay,, Gündoğan
     
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  7. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Reus cant take that role because he is Mr. Glass from Unbreakable
     
  8. PierreLittbarski

    1. FC Köln
    Germany
    Sep 9, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


    If he is fit of course lol.

    12 Goals & 6 Assists Total of 18 G/A in 29 apps A not so profilic season as per Reus' standard but He still managed to get decent numbers in a difficult season. His finshing this has been a bit off though..which is weird. .
     
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  9. PierreLittbarski

    1. FC Köln
    Germany
    Sep 9, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Draxler Need To Leave PSG ASAP

    To save his carrer
     
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  10. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Those stats were mostly in qualifiers against minnows and are thus useless. In the tournaments he didnt happen to lie around in some hospital he did jack shit: 2012 and 2018.

    Reus is only still on the team because Löw a, has some sort of sentimental feelings Reus missed 2014 and b, because he cant throw all the international experience overboard. Except for Reus we only have greenhorns upfront who have played 1/2 -1 international tourneys. And: Reus is not even a key player at Dortmund anymore. Plus Reus certainly is not an impact player. Never was.

    In a nutshell: He cant. Forget about Reus doing any significant in the remaining 2-3 years of his international career
     
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  11. RacMan93

    RacMan93 Member

    Jul 15, 2010
    Montreal
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Reus has been Dormunds best player for years now. Imo he was the best player of Germany’s golden generation and it’s a same beat didn’t win the WC in 2014 with the rest of them. If fit I could even see him starting over someone like Sané.
     
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  12. RacMan93

    RacMan93 Member

    Jul 15, 2010
    Montreal
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
     
  13. RacMan93

    RacMan93 Member

    Jul 15, 2010
    Montreal
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    my 11 is similar but the lack of defensive players in our midfield with our center backs worry me.

    also what are your thoughts on having Demme and Nehaus on the team?
     
  14. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    not sure where I hate on Reus? I like him but he's injury prone and wasted potential. If I hate on players its guys like Draxler and Mustafi, lol.

    so is Rudiger only there to convince Werner and Havertz to join Chelsea and to be bench CB, he lost his spot....3 consecutive bench........Tah also lost his spot towards the end at Bayer..........

    well good for Rudiger's chances that Chelsea are down 2-0....
     
  15. Raumdeuter

    Raumdeuter Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    Texas
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Rudiger on that 3rd goal
     
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  16. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I didnt deny that Reus is possibly our best offensive option. I said, he is a glass cannon and you cant trust in him to deliver when you need it. Considering that, he is certainly no locker room guy/impact player option
     
  17. RacMan93

    RacMan93 Member

    Jul 15, 2010
    Montreal
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    If he’s our best offensive option wouldn’t that make him an impact player. I agree though because of injuries he’s not reliable
     
  18. Boandlkramer

    Boandlkramer Member+

    Apr 9, 2009
    Samma Weltmeister!
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Why?
     
  19. Blueberry_night

    Blueberry_night Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Totally embarassing. Even Mustafi can do better on that 3rd goal.
     
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  20. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Impact player would mean he is available most often and especially when needed.

    Reus is basically the worst of both worlds
     
  21. Jordan Khamra

    Jordan Khamra Member

    May 21, 2014
    A few items:

    • Draxler should never play for the NT. He never deserved to make it in the first place
    • Reus if not injured should be part of the team.
    • Thomas Muller has had a great season but is not coming back to the NT. Here is the reason why. A team set up with a true and good #9 is needed to get the best out of Thomas Muller. Take that away and he is not the same. With Gomez done, the NT doesn't play that way so the need for Muller is diminished.
     
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  22. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    :ROFLMAO:

    we get CBs at clubs like Arsenal and Chelsea and even then both seem unusable......
     
  23. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Neuer has an Özil type of situation coming up. He was filmed in Croatia yelling Croatian nazi rock songs
     
  24. Dage

    Dage Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 4, 2008
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Do you say, that Kovac actually had an impact on this team? ^^
     
  25. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think the NT are all set in GK, midfield and left back:

    GK) Neuer, ter Stegen, Leno, Schwolow, Trapp are all good

    LB) Gosens, Halstenberg, Max, Nico Schulz, Mittelstadt, Plattenhardt

    DM/CM) Emre Can, Goretzka, Kimmich, Kroos, Gundogan, Brandt, Arnold, Demme

    CB we have some depth but maybe not enough quality;

    Good) Ginter, Sule, Hummels, Torunarigha

    So-So) Koch, Rudiger, Mustafi, Tah, Stark


    Wingers, CFs, RB.........we need so much depth

    Wingers) Timo Werner, Sane, Gnabry, Reus ( Havertz plays RW pretty well but we might need him at CF; Brandt is also capable to play at wing but i feel like he is better as a free roaming 8)

    CF) maybe Havertz ............ n no other solution yet)

    RB) We only have Klostermann who is relevant (Lets see how Henrichs will develop next season, but either him or Klostermann will play RB )
     
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