Dan Counce sacked?

Discussion in 'Colorado Rapids' started by Evil Genius, Nov 17, 2004.

  1. Evil Genius

    Evil Genius Member

    Jun 6, 2004
    Southern Minnesota
    here

    Scroll to the bottom of the page. About an hour ago he said that an MLS GM had been sacked. About five minutes ago he said it was Dan Counce. Obviously he's been wrong about things before, but it's not like there's a lot of GM rumors that float around.

    EDIT: He's got a story up now. click
     
  2. greenie

    greenie New Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Boulder, CO
    I had been chasing this story for much of the past week myself, but couldn't get any confirmations that Counce was on his way out. What's been interesting is that in the past week there haven't exactly been denials to my confirmation requests.

    From what I'm hearing, Balboa will be named GM.
     
  3. wcgcapone

    wcgcapone Member

    Feb 6, 2001
    Denver, CO, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who the hell is that in the picture?
     
  4. Stogey23

    Stogey23 Member+

    Dec 12, 1998
    San Diego, CA
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    The president of Hair Club For Men. He's not only the president, he's also a client.
     
  5. wcgcapone

    wcgcapone Member

    Feb 6, 2001
    Denver, CO, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It sure insn't Councebert. Kinda looks like Mooch if he killed a small forest beast though.
     
  6. Bucky L

    Bucky L New Member

    Nov 20, 2003
    oh..my goodness...all you soccer dorks got your wish...counce is gone...big fat charlie wright who has no idea of how to run a mls team. the big fat kid is in charge...long live the fat bastard...rapids are in big trouble...kiss chung...kiss hendo good bye....GO BALBOA...you know what balboa..you should run for congress......that is the only way fat but loves you because you kissed his big fat but.....
     
  7. Bucky L

    Bucky L New Member

    Nov 20, 2003
    oh yeah...lets see rapids fire mooch...lets talk about door closing and another one opening...counce will rise to the top and fat bastard will go to dairy queen and eat himself to death! oh yeah...did i forget to metiion that he got his girlfriend from match.com
     
  8. spook

    spook New Member

    Mar 14, 2002
    Lafayette, CO
    Yikes. Does BS have an "ignore" function? :eek:
     
  9. GreatGonzo

    GreatGonzo Member+

    Jul 1, 1999
    MA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    wow.

    simply... wow.

    As for Counce being sacked, well, hey, the odds of hiring someone better is greater than the odds of hiring someone worse.
     
  10. smudgeyjoe

    smudgeyjoe Member

    Dec 15, 2001
    Westminster Colorado
    For my part, Counce and Timmy were equally bad, and equally needed to be gone. For all the haranguing about Charlie Wright, Kroenke has obviously been successful in previous investments, and I expect him to be successful in this. While I didn't agree with it, the management said they were going to give the Rapids a year to right the ship and for KSE to learn the ropes. They have now, and have made a great first step. I listened to Marcelo tonight on the USA-Jamaica match and enjoyed his commentary. I know that does not make him general manager quality. I don't know and will reserve judgement on him. He seems an obvious choice but that doesn't mean he will be the choice. I could understand KSE wanting a better at least more experienced business person. Whatever the case, I am thrilled to see this regime gone with a real chance for new beginnings. By the way, if you didn't hear yet, the Real have acquired Jason Kreis and are working their way to acquiring Mathis. I hope we see some of those kinds of moves happening here!!! :D
     
  11. jimmyco

    jimmyco Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Aurora, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do you need a red pill or a blue pill?


    Now tell us the one about how the fat bastard ate all the pies.

    I like you, I kill you last. :D
     
  12. jimmyco

    jimmyco Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Aurora, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While there are no guarantees in life, it's good that we finally have a chance to move forward again. I think Counce's time is long past - every company shakes up the upper echelons occasionally.

    Here's to quick and long lasting success.

    Up the NegrAzul!
     
  13. bigdush

    bigdush New Member

    Jul 22, 2003
    Parker, CO
    Wow is right.

    There is an ignore function, I think. But it is really evident from this post that an age limit on who can join bigsoccer should somehow be implemented.
     
  14. UxSxAxfooty

    UxSxAxfooty Member+

    Jan 23, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Stan Kroenke.
     
  15. Bonji

    Bonji Moderator

    Feb 4, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, I got my wish. Counce and Hanki gone in the same month. Hopefully this will lead to a good GM apointment and good coach apointment. Next year is going to be a lot different in Rapid land.
     
  16. Malaga CF fan

    Malaga CF fan Member

    Apr 19, 2000
    Fairfax, VA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    alright!!! Two for one (well, kinda...)!!!!

    Give Balboa the reins and see where he takes this team.
     
  17. Bilbo

    Bilbo New Member

    Dec 29, 2003
    Box under I-25/ I-70
    Do any of you know why Counce was let go? You all assume he had a hand in these player moves. How do you know it wasn't Charlie Wright (fat bastard) or Tim Hankinson? Lay off the dude.
     
  18. Bonji

    Bonji Moderator

    Feb 4, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He was the GM foe eight years, this past was his ninth. As GM he was responsible for the management of the team. The GM is involved in player decisions. The best one he made? Joe Cannon. When KSE bought the team he was demoted to only handling player issues as Charlie Wright took over the operations side of things. I can't find the article saying this was happening but I remember it (I know that is helpful). Counce had his hand in all player moves.
     
  19. bigdush

    bigdush New Member

    Jul 22, 2003
    Parker, CO

    What I want to know is what you thought he did and you're justification(s) for keeping him instead of saying goodbye to him.
     
  20. Grady08

    Grady08 Member

    Aug 30, 2001
    I had the chance to work with Dan in '99 and he was a decent guy, but when you have a new owner who is essentially giving everyone a one year audition, you have to expect that changes will be made if the level of success he expects isn't met. Whomever they announce as the next GM has their work cut out for them. If it is Marcelo, I sort of question it...only in that as good a soccer player as he was, what does he possess to make him a GM? I imagine the same was said in SJ with Alexi...who knows, it could work and be a success...I hope it is because Colorado is a great franchise with a great staff that work there...

    Cheers
     
  21. Sempuukyaku

    Sempuukyaku Member+

    Apr 30, 2002
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who the hell is complaining about KSE now??? (other than greenie :rolleyes: )



    We get:


    -A new stadium deal DONE AND FINISHED

    -Hanki gone

    -Counce gone

    -Altitude sports up and running 100%



    In order to complete our franchise's turnaround we just need to get a new, much better coach (NOT the guy from KC please), and a much more saavy and competent GM. If KSE can pull this off and pull in the right people to take our franchise to the level we should be at, I will be a happy man.
     
  22. GoRapids

    GoRapids Member

    Sep 1, 1999
    Boulder CO
    I think this is fantastic news. No matter what you think about Counce ... you can't argue that in his tenure with the Rapids ... the Rapids have been basically boring and mediocre. Whether he was responsible for player selection or the coach was ... he chose both Mooch and Hankison as coach ... and not too many people think either were sucessful.

    As far as Balboa being GM ... what GM has had GM experience before being hired???
     
  23. Bonji

    Bonji Moderator

    Feb 4, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey Greenie, what did you mean by this on Rapidsfan?

    What sudden popularity did he have?
     
  24. Malaga CF fan

    Malaga CF fan Member

    Apr 19, 2000
    Fairfax, VA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Counce may have been a nice guy, and he did some good things for the Rapids organization (4th of July game, for example) but overall, the team hasn't won any hardware (ever, although his tenure pretty much encompasses the entire life of the organization) and ultimately, GM's are evaluated by 1) profitability of the team (not until SSS, at least in the MLS) and 2) how the team performs on the field (and gets butts in the seats as a result).

    #1 was getting there, but until 2007 and the new SSS, is pretty much unattainable.

    #2, clearly, the team has been struggling, and has bowed out of the playoffs early the last 3 years, hasn't advanced far in the US Open Cup, and hasn't generated a lot of interest in the Denver community because they aren't winning or playing exciting soccer. Something needed to change.

    I'm not going to dance on Counce's proverbial grave, but this team seems to be taking a new direction, with a new coach, possible increased interest by the ownership group (especially given the NHL strike, what to do with all those staffers??) and getting rid of Counce is just part of the purging process.

    I would think that some players are next (and not just those exposed to the expansion draft).
     
  25. Bonji

    Bonji Moderator

    Feb 4, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Counce: "1997 Western Conference Champs, don't you forget it. Ohh, that was 7 years ago? I guess we need to get something else done in this league."

    The team does have some "hardware". I saw it in the confernece room of their old offices on 17th street.
     

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