Dalby signs with Charleroi

Discussion in 'Colorado Rapids' started by tmeuz, Sep 5, 2007.

  1. tmeuz

    tmeuz New Member

    May 13, 2003
    Denver, CO
  2. Bonji

    Bonji Moderator

    Feb 4, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Meanwhile he could have been playing this entire year as opposed to hopping around Europe. I guess it is worth chasing your dream. They are a first division side.
     
  3. Hed7181

    Hed7181 Member

    Jul 1, 2003
    VA Beach, VA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He'll be facing Oguchi Onyewu head on. That'll be interesting.
     
  4. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Burn 6 months to get a 1 year contract. If he doesn't impress he'll be in the same situation next summer, and the Rapids will still own his MLS rights.
     
  5. eRulz2

    eRulz2 New Member

    Aug 23, 2006
    Tulsa, OK
    Absolute no brainer for Dalby. MLS Contracts lock players (US players that is), at MLS option, for 1 plus 3 years with salary predetermined. Minimum for a US player in Belgium is $65k euros guaranteed and his upside earning potential becomes huge. In addition, he'll benefit from the superior training.

    Congrats Greg!
     
  6. weeds

    weeds New Member

    Jul 13, 2007
    Colorado
    This was a much better move for him. He knew good and well that there would be no development under Clavijo.

    It would've become more apparent to him as this MLS season went on that not playing may have been better than settling here.
     
  7. GoRapids

    GoRapids Member

    Sep 1, 1999
    Boulder CO
    How would you know? :confused:
     
  8. Martin Fischer

    Martin Fischer Member+

    Feb 23, 1999
    Kampala. Uganda
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Please explain what you know about training at Charloi and how it is superior to training in MLS. Thanks.
     
  9. Ingmar4Rapids

    Ingmar4Rapids Member

    Jun 25, 2002
    Denver, Colorado
    I can't blame a guy for signing in Europe if for no other reason than to experience a different lifestyle and be in a country where soccer is more important in the sports hierarchy. If I was in a similar position, I would try to play in Europe just for the adventure of it. I have great reservations about all the arguments on how Europe is somehow better in everything they do when it comes to soccer, but I do think it would be a fun choice for someone out of college to try and get a job in a league over there.
     
  10. TheSlipperyOne

    TheSlipperyOne Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Denver
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
  11. deron

    deron New Member

    Jul 25, 2006
    Centennial, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good for Greg.

    We can all move on now.
     
  12. weeds

    weeds New Member

    Jul 13, 2007
    Colorado
    I'll follow up your question with one. Who has FC developed, ever, with any of the squads he's coached?

    I'll contend that Cummings, among others youngsters, should be seeing more of the field in order to further their development. But they are just sitting on their keesters................

    In other words, it's my opinion that Clavijo has no idea how to develop young talent.
     
  13. greenie

    greenie New Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Boulder, CO
    Yet another reason that the MLS "Superdraft" continues to lose respect among coaches and players. Why invest time and effort to scout a player when your selection of him in the draft could wind up meaningless?
     
  14. GoRapids

    GoRapids Member

    Sep 1, 1999
    Boulder CO
    Ahh ... it sounded like maybe you knew what Greg was thinking.
     
  15. DavidJames

    DavidJames Member+

    May 11, 2003
    Longmont
    Clark, Peterson and Coundoul come to mind.
     
  16. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sold on Clark yet, definitely not sold on Peterson yet, but Condoul looks like he has promise.
     
  17. Rei de Boston

    Rei de Boston New Member

    Mar 16, 2004
    You could maybe add Gargan to that list. While still not a great player he has developed quite a bit.
     
  18. Waterboy14

    Waterboy14 Member

    Mar 29, 2006
    He made Beckerman better before he made him worse...wonder if that counts?
     
  19. area815

    area815 Member

    Jan 29, 2007
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    AC Siena
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Woot
     
  20. jayd8888

    jayd8888 Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Denver CO
    Good for Greg, I think he made the right move.
     
  21. weeds

    weeds New Member

    Jul 13, 2007
    Colorado
    I don't see them as being developed by Clavijo. I see more that injuries and poor trade decisions (ie "team setup") forced FC's hand in putting them on the field.

    Anytime Osorno is used as a 60'-70' substitute instead of Peterson, I see it as an example of the poor decisions.

    Anyone that has watched Clark over his years in youth soccer up through where he's gotten himself to now, they would tell you that all he needed was some time on the field to come good.
     
  22. DavidJames

    DavidJames Member+

    May 11, 2003
    Longmont
    So is it safe to say…

    Anything negative that happens, FC’s gets the blame.
    Anything positive that happens, FC doesn’t get the credit?

    Edit…

    This reminds me of another good is bad complaint about FC. The Rapids made the conference final the past two years, good? No, bad, they didn’t win those games, they tied and only advanced on PK’s.

    There are plenty of legitimate complaints to level about with this team during FC’s tenure. I think our credibility becomes an issue when we attempt to color everything, even positive things, in a negative light.
     
  23. tmeuz

    tmeuz New Member

    May 13, 2003
    Denver, CO
    You must spread more rep before.....

    Can we sticky this?
     
  24. GoRapids

    GoRapids Member

    Sep 1, 1999
    Boulder CO
    Great post Dave.
     
  25. weeds

    weeds New Member

    Jul 13, 2007
    Colorado
    It's my opinion, it doesn't have to be yours. If you believe that he has in some way developed any of those players, you're more than welcome to.

    I'm not a very negative person. In fact, those that know me, would be more likely to say that I give way to much credit and leeway to people. I gave Clavijo his props when he decided to finally field a team that I would consider to be regularly competitive in this league (the lineup he fielded against the bulls recently). His props came with a caveat, however. It wouldn't have taken a coach, that was worth his salt, until half way throught the season to make those decisions. I'll continue to give it up for Clavijo when I think he's earned it. For example, against the run of popular opinion, I personally thought that the Beckerman trade was a good trade (even though I like Beckerman's passion).

    I'll continue to stand by my opinion that Clavijo doesn't know how to blood young players and that Dalby was a smart fella for doing what he could to not have to play for him.
     

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