Cybertrucks Do That Normally, Right? - Random Thoughts 2025

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  1. zaqualung

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    I do wonder seriously though - how much a tendency toward depression that being out and about in the real world might ameliorate somewhat (for those not really debilitated by something at an already clinical level) might grow and eventually perhaps overcome someone due to too much interaction with these things.
     
  2. zaqualung

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    Actually, upon re-reading it, it strikes me one could develop a mental illness just trying to follow that sentence..... ;)
     
  3. speker

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  4. Menace2Sobriety

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    You’re correct and it’s likely an already recognized DSMx condition that’s made worse by all things internet. It’s been 3 careers ago so I don’t keep up :)
     
  5. Samarkand

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    May 28, 2001
    Hardly unexpected, this chutzpah.

    There’s every good reason to believe that Lumpy is dick-deep in the Epstein files, as are more than a few others. There’s talk of many, many photographs of compromising positions, rape and underage and all the rest of it. For many Epstein pals. None of this is surprising.

    But here’s the not-business-as-usual part: More than a few outlets and journalists are reporting that even though he’s dick-deep, Lumpy is now blackmailing the other participants. Primarily to keep quiet, but knowing Lumpy he won’t be able to restrict himself to that.
     
  6. LiverpoolFanatic

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    Bad Bunny: American Hero.

    That was fantastic and of course Trump had a typical meltdown as a result.
     
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  7. newterp

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    Wasn't he watching the racist broadcast? How dod he have time to watch Bad Bunny?
     
  8. LiverpoolFanatic

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    He posted a long screed on Truth Social after watching it. Predictably racist and he had the temerity to make comments about the dancers because kids would be watching.
     
  9. Samarkand

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  10. Samarkand

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    Lumpy only speaks pedo.
     
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  11. newterp

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    Thomas Massie dropping bombs on the Epstein files - says the corruption and names implicate almost everyone in power.
     
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  12. LiverpoolFanatic

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  13. zaqualung

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    All this "implication"talk" is counter-productive.

    The conflation of hanging out with Epstein and the proclivity for indulging in indecent, illegal sexual behavior involving minors is being suggested too much.
    People are not responsible for crimes merely by being in the environment where they occurred.
     
  14. newterp

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    Pretty sure that's not his point
     
  15. owian

    owian Member+

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    Yes you can be especially if you are an important part of the government past or present. I don't have a problem holding government officials, elected or not, to a higher standard regardless of party. It's pretty clear that people knew that Epstein was at the very least an icky person. Nobody forced them to go to his dinner parties. They are adults, sure they might have been there for the conversation but others were there were for other reasons and yes there is something called guilt by association.
     
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  16. LiverpoolFanatic

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  17. newterp

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  18. newterp

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  19. Samarkand

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    Jeanne Pirro has a pretty great record of not getting indictments in DC since Lumpy made her US Attorney for the city. There’s a decent chance, waaay better than even, that she drinks Chardonnay better than she lawyers.
     
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  20. zaqualung

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    I'm betting she drinks the horrid extra-buttery fake flavour kind of Chardonnay too... no French culture for her.

    What a wretched carcass of a human she is.......
     
  21. zaqualung

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    I don't have an issue with members of the government & culpability by more than random association there. Those are positions that (in normal eras) require a level of public trust that this kind of thing invalidates. So agreed there. Not agreed on the bandying about of names like Bill Gates, Richard Branson, Noam Chomsky, Woody Allen, etc... as guilty of something. As I don;t actually think any of these people were engaging with Epstein as a conduit for their arms to finagle into underage bras.

    There are probably many levels of guilt here (and I'm positing some levels of non-actual guilt). Dinner parties at Epstein's mansion in NY and dinner-overnights at that Island are/were likely very different levels of encounters for making observational critical judgments (IMO) about the ethics of the scene, insofar as you might be a newer acquaintance of Epstein's circle.

    Also if, for example, say Bill Gates, were to have had it off with a 22 yr old partial hooker, even if on the island, and she introduced to him by Epstein, is he actually morally obliged to wonder what creep-kreep-Kreep bad vibe looking types like Allan Dershowitz and the ex-prime minister of Israel, and Andy Mountebank Windsor, etc are doing if it hasn’t been blatantly shown before his eyes?

    Simply put – in terms of guilt – we don’t know what was done by who and/or what was known by who.

    Let's take the odd case of Mandelson. If Peter Mandelson were not criminally implicated in another type of high criminality involving Epstein, he would categorically have not been present at any encounters with vulnerable young girls. Yet his infatuation with being in the power structure of Epstein's elite connection puts him into the same crosshairs as those who were there for exactly this purpose.

    The question of guilt for many of these people is "what did you see and know"? What human sense of responsibility did you exhibit upon your suspicions. The answer to these questions for some won’t necessarily point to any guilt.

    Alistair Campbell (on his podcast with Rory Stewart) tells a story of how he was in first class on a transatlantic flight and Ghislaine Maxwell, whom he knew from London social circles said, come meet my boyfriend.

    Campbell said he took a taxi over to the Epstein Mansion later or next day - and got a genuinely instant bad vibe from him and kept his distance, and that was that.

    Let’s say he didn’t get that vibe- maybe initiallythen, Tony Blair’s govt’s top adviser might conceivably have been to a couple (or a few - given his standing) of dinner gatherings with the perverted scuzzball until (and given the modus operandi of Epstein’s type of language luring, as deeper and deeper language, you would eventually get a whiff of a bad scent) he had fully formed a calculus of what type of not nice acquaintance this bloke was. Would this make Alaistair Campbell somehow guilty?
     
  22. LiverpoolFanatic

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    What a vile and utterly execrable human being.

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  23. zaqualung

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    "what a vile and utterly execrable human caricature...."

    There, I fixed it.....
     
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  24. newterp

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    I hope she dies the most painful death possible.

    I hate her.
     
  25. owian

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    Not sure how many people's careers are going to end because they went to one dinner party at Epstein's house. And if Bill Gates is embarrassed because he had a prostitute organized for him by Epstein okay. Again my answer is they chose to swim in this swamp, I don't want to hear them whine because they smell bad. I'm a private citizen with no connections and I have had to distance myself from people because I didn't want their behavior to be connected to me. If I can do that they can.
     
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