Cybertrucks Do That Normally, Right? - Random Thoughts 2025

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  1. hubbabubba

    hubbabubba Moderator
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    May 17, 2002
    Ann Arbor, MI
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    I am not really surprised by this change in JD anymore, he wrote a book that was startlingly exploitative of the trials and tribulations that he and many of his community faced since the 70s. He mainly used it as a manifesto to promote himself into politics, and it was evident that was the primary aim (he's obviously not the only one to do this, Obama did the same, and a long line of previous wannabe politicians - maybe starting with JFK). He built his career on the backs of the white working class, but proposes no good solutions for their problems. He seems to have learned all the wrong lessons from growing up and succeeding from hardscrabble beginnings. He's a classic stereotype of someone benefitting from climbing the social ladder then turning around and pulling the ladder up behind them. Even in his descriptions of his experiences in the book they are almost invariably about "me" and "I" and very rarely does he display any ability to put himself in someone else's shoes. He also appears very chameleon-like changing his ideas and viewpoints dramatically as he moves into the military, college, and Yale law school. In the book he talks a lot about a succession of his mother's boyfriends that tried to varying degrees to fill the role of a father figure for him, and how he would adapt and change to try to fit in with them. So, I am not really surprised by this hard right change he now shows, just as I wouldn't be surprised if he reinvents himself again in a couple of years if he thinks it would suit him. I think he's a very damaged person, without much of true sense of self; willing and able to change to suit his surroundings so that it benefits him the most.
     
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  2. speker

    speker Member+

    May 16, 2009
    Canada
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    I just watched a youtube clip of Kash Patel testifying before congress and he's wearing a LFC neck tie :sick:
     
  3. owian

    owian Member+

    Liverpool FC, San Diego FC
    May 17, 2002
    San Diego
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    Yep one rule for thee one rule for me is the North Star of the current republican party. Say horrible dehumanizing things about immigrants, well that's just free speech. Say horrible mean things about Israel, well that's supporting terrorism. Make fun of victims of "Right Wing Violence", once again just free speech deal with it snowflake. Make fun of a victim of "Left Wing Violence" lose your job, and your freedom.

    I don't want to live in a world that rewards the most violent among us. So I will never celebrate Charlie Kirk's death, but nor will I celebrate his life.
     
  4. bayred

    bayred Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    May 28, 2018
    Now THAT is irony.
     
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  5. hubbabubba

    hubbabubba Moderator
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    May 17, 2002
    Ann Arbor, MI
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  6. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
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    United States
    so embarrassing.

    Both the testimony and his apparently LFC support.
     
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  7. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    Anyone want to expose him to the history of the club? The city? The fans?
     
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  8. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    Correct - lest people forget - HE WAS AN AWFUL person. A race-baiting, white supremacist hiding behind the "debate well" and "willing to talk" BS. He wasn't willing to talk at all. He was willing to talk AT you - that's it.
     
  9. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    Don’t know how many here are familiar with Dean Withers? Mainly (exclusively?) online, but a rather good, if not excellent debater. Liberal. Takes serious delight in exposing the shitfest of beliefs of the MAGAidiots. He’s very good on his feet, debates very well and generally puts across a good argument. Not many have gotten the better of him.

    Common consensus is that he wiped the floor with Charlie Kirk when they debated. Then Kirk refused to debate him anymore.
     
  10. bayred

    bayred Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    May 28, 2018
    And suggest Real Madrid might be more up his alley.
     
  11. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
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    Liverpool FC
    Except he is not really a member of that communty. More-like a parasitical observer amongst them.
     
  12. hubbabubba

    hubbabubba Moderator
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    May 17, 2002
    Ann Arbor, MI
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    United States
    Zaq, he very much DID come from a broken family whose heritage was from rural Kentucky and who struggled with poverty and drugs. I don’t know what you are trying to say with this comment? Just because he is now quite wealthy and part of the political elite doesn’t change his upbringing, or make it less real than it was. I just think he drew the wrong conclusions from his ability to succeed despite being raised in those circumstances.
     
  13. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
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    Liverpool FC
    Didn't know his parents were alcos. But many have put up with carrying that cross.
    Yeah, but as far as I'm aware he grew up in small town Ohio. Which isn't exactly rural redneck Appalachia- so I always thought he was smearing it on just a bit thick with the rural background bit, due to spending summers there.

    Mind you - in my opinion, which is similar to yours here, I think .... his entire life is a smeared on fabrication of one thing and another.....
     
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  14. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    FFS. IT WAS A JOKE!!!
     
  15. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    Ali Alexander is a MAGAidiot influencer. One of the organizers of Stop The Steal, he’s not a bit player. Probably not as big as Charlie Kirk, but well known in the far right environment. On a livestream yesterday:

    "My attention is going to be on trying to get Kash Patel fired, trying to get Donald Trump off his fat ass to avenge his friend, trying to use state power to tell civil libertarians to shut up while we excise all of AntiFa from our country. I think 500,000 people need to be arrested, tried, and possibly killed if they're convicted for treason or something like that. I think America needs a penal colony. I do not want to coexist with these people."
     
  16. LiverpoolFanatic

    Liverpool FC, Philadelphia Union
    Feb 19, 2000
    Lancaster, PA
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    But it's the Left calling for violence...
     
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  17. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
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    Wild times
     
  18. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
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    Liverpool FC
    163 countries ranked. US is 128th. quelle sur-bloody-prise!

    Why The U.S. Never Makes The World's Safest Countries List


    https://archive.ph/YSqaX
     
  19. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Always the same problem with these fvckheads and their opinions.
    Unaware of the unitary mass of one unit among other units of sameness, and the stipulatary legality that his will and interests have no greater meaning than anyone else's.
     
  20. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
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    Liverpool FC
    maybe something to do with the fact that there's always the possibility of someone pointing a gun at you in nearly every environment.
     
  21. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Liverpool FC

    of course, it also goes without saying that demented dangerous idiots shouldn't be on braodcast "channels" of any kind. Again, social scummedia has another part of its ugly day.
     
  22. hubbabubba

    hubbabubba Moderator
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    May 17, 2002
    Ann Arbor, MI
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    Growing up in a relatively small town in Indiana, and now living in Michigan, I can tell you that a lot of people living in small towns and rural areas in the Midwest view themselves as hillbillies or rednecks. A fair number of them may actually have migrated from Appalachia at some point in the past. But more than that, they have similar cultural outlooks - and frankly have often been left to fend for themselves as manufacturing was off-shored and after two waves of farm bankruptcies in the mid-80s and again during the housing bubble crisis in 2008. I'd say a fair number of people in southwestern Ohio (where Vance grew up) would proudly call themselves hillbillies or rednecks.
     
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  23. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
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    Liverpool FC
    And Trump doesn't like violent crime or property damage except when it's a horde of his clown supporters enacting it
    Or institutional fraud - except when its his institutions defrauding...

    oh, yeah - and up is down .... :rolleyes:
     
  24. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    Jimmy Kimmel on indefinite hiatus.
     
  25. speker

    speker Member+

    May 16, 2009
    Canada
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    Liverpool FC
    Ridiculous decision.
     
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