There's some interesting thoughts in this piece from Fortune. I'm a Canadian listening to Trump. Let's talk about 'the 51st state' | Fortune
I think you say a lot of things I agree with. As an academic, I find the post-modern rejection of objective reality to be most concerning. But I’m a bit more optimistic about the future. What is going on right now with the advent of social media and the internet and access to large amounts of unfiltered information is definitely causing havoc. But we have been through these sorts of information revolutions before. Arguably, discovery of the printing press and large-scale dissemination of information initially resulted in a proliferation of small rag sheets, many of which were of questionable veracity. These were consolidated into large, high-quality publications over time - the same happened with radio and TV. Particularly in the late 1800s and early 1900s propaganda was rampant, and people were easily fooled Into believing it - I think because before then news was generally passed from person to person and you knew a lot more about the person who was conveying it (e.g. Paul is a reliable person not prone to being wrong, but Peter is a bit of a goof and you can’t trust him…). Instead strangers with unknown motivation were able to widely distribute the news and facts that they wanted to. After some time, as people got used to these new forms of information dissemination they learned to be a bit more skeptical. Radio and TV were even more pernicious as they were invited right into your household. I think we’re in the middle of a new era of information dissemination, with algorithms that insert stories or posts into your “feed” ostensibly from your “friends and contacts.” This is just a new insidious way to fool people into trusting information of questionable veracity by cloaking it as being shared by friends and acquaintances. Fitting with this, you see older people most likely to be fooled into believing untruths - as they are least likely to be able to adapt to this new way of sharing information. But as has happened before, eventually people will adapt to this new information era. Propaganda works until it doesn’t. When false information proves to be false, people have a tendency to notice. When Trump is not able to solve the Ukraine conflict on his first day, and when he doesn’t actually deport 13 million illegal immigrants, and his tariffs lead to resurgent inflation - people will notice and stop believing his nonsense. While far-right parties are getting a lot of traction right now, I blame this mostly on the fact that the needs of the working class have been ignored by all normal political parties (in the US this includes both the Democrats and the Republicans who have sacrificed the livelihoods of millions on the altar of political donations from ever-richer business people who have been offshoring manufacturing jobs and replacing them with… nothing). I also think that we’ll probably find out that Russia and China have been actively promoting these ideas to a much wider degree than is generally recognized in order to sow division and chaos in the west. My main concern is that these parties don’t do too much damage before they are found out to be the dead-ends that they are. In the first half of the 20th century this use of propaganda by far-right parties led to two world wars, and I just hope that we don’t slide into that again.
great post hubba. I'd like to say I share your cautious positivity about how this will all play out, but I really fear that the negative forces will push more and more "decent people" out of positions of positive influence through threats of violence. not everyone in key government positions have the fortitude of a Kinzinger or a Liz Cheney, and the verbal violence and threats against them and their families is being seen at all levels of government these days (not just referring to the US, btw). this bit .... .... is what rises to the top of my worry list. using Ukraine as an example - that country will cease to exists as an independent entity a long time before the disinformation tide is corrected (if it ever is) and that won't be reversable.
Yup generally agree with hubba's analysis. The distorted social and corporate media landscape has led to the current level of polarization. Don't think it can be sustained - because so much of what is being put out there - by Trump and others - cannot be supported by facts (that is, its utter bullshit).
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-mercenary-wagner-drone-us-mexico-border-illegal-immigration-2012941 Wagner mercenary caught crossing the Texas-Mexico border with a drone, 2 passports, and cash.
Will someone ask this fvck to shut the fvck up about the justice system being used unfairly against him? "I am completely innocent" Does he expect people (other than the morons who listen to him) to believe that Michael Cohen was not guilty? Was falsely convicted and imprisoned? Or that he was blissfully unaware of this Cohen happenstance? What a scuzzball.....
That's all very well - but if you happen to be a person who isn't interested in looking for factuality .... what pole then??
No - you clown - "We" as in We The People - We've been treated unfairly... by Russian BOTS,, Social Media Manipulation, inanity, Hannity and deceit fuel. We (as in , we the sane intelligent rational citizenry) have had our discourse stolen by the easy manipulation of the insane and stupid segments of society. And the judgment on that is yet to come down......
I think Canada, Mexico and Denmark could trump Trump with some counter-proposals. How about Canada takes New England, New York, the Great Lakes and Michigan for instance? And add in Florida for all the snow birds, Trump can lease back Mar-a-Lago. Sheinbaum was clever with the map play, but could follow it up with announcing plans to annex Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California and re-name it all Greater New Mexico. Fredericksen should simply suggest a territory swap - Greenland for Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands and Guam.
Yes the other leaders should call him out on his pettiness - but the problem is because Trump is truly a child - their barbs will lead to his tantrums which could (I stress could) lead to actual consequences on the global front.
Wowow - first Commanders playoff win in 20 years! crazy game! we see goals like this all the time in soccer - off the posts or crossbar - but the commanders needed a post kiss on a game winning easy field goal.
yes - they go - will so far - but..... (Eagles and Vikings notwithstanding on that side - if Josh Allen & Co don't; stop Lamar and Derrick Henry next weekend they are going all the way.....)
We’re super banged up defensively and will need to outscore every team - which we can. I dunno if we can replicate that Vikings defensive effort 3 more times. Lamar and Josh are the bogeys for the Lions. The key this weekend will be Jaden
Been listening to a podcast about the rise of the Franks and Charlemenge during the Early Middle Ages (Dark Ages), and the echo's are disturbing. No long term planning or sense of what is best for the whole. If you get power it's all about rewarding your faction and destroying the other. And that's fair enough, that's the reality of the world, but we had a system that wasn't that for a little while. And for some reason I still can't grasp people threw it away because egg's cost too much.
I think you are right that humans tend to course correct eventually. But usually after periods of instability and violence. After the printing press we had a sustained period of religious wars throughout Europe. As you pointed out yellow Journalism helped create the conditions for the two World Wars. My concern is with Nuclear Weapons will we survive this current period of increased instability and violence that seems to be ahead of us?
Which podcast? I suspect if you like that, you’ll love Mike Duncan’s The History Of Rome. It’s a long ‘un, 193 episodes. But on many occasions there are so many direct correlations to modern day life and politics. When I wrapped, I felt I’d lost a friend.
it's difficult to grasp in one sense - and not that difficult in the other. (If the powers that be in the 50s thru the 90s had seen the problems with the weaponized internet they would (maybe) have curtailed it into a Commerce with no Comment landscape. But, who can predict the future? - particularly when the future is devolved in stone madness. Read some stupid bitch's comment on X recently about executing Gen. Milley as a traitor. These people's idiot minds have been poisoned. Actually poisoned. By the normal methodology of poisoning. Too much of any X (pun intended) substance. The word-vomit of Trump, bannon, or Alex Jones can poison just like arsenic In the one sense- The sense that we grew up in - which was moored in the rather stabilizing idea that intelligent analysis was of more importance than the gibbering of the massed rabble - and that there were informed intelligent people and reasonably working (maybe a bit too distorted by top-end power interests in the US compared to the rest of the media world) who would get things reasonably right and disseminate valid information and opinions (even ones in direct ideological conflict with one another) into the sub-strata which isn't equipped to correctly/sanely formulate these things as selectively for themselves. That "sense" is unfortunately gone into oxygen starvation under the overwhelming flood of stupidity that mobile social media has gifted us. Thus, the recession that is not a recession, and the price of eggs and bananas masks the truth of the faces of people who have gone bananas As I type - Pete Hegseth (could a figure be more ridiculously insulting to the population....ffs) sits, or was just sitting before a Senate panel to become leader of the Military. These republican senators from these backwaters are the real scum leading us to the Dark Ages
The podcast about the dark ages was from the a general history series called "The Rest is History" . It's part of Goalhanger productions which was actually founded by Gary Lineker. And I love Mike Duncan's podcasts. I found the History of Rome during lockdown when my normal diet of football content disappeared. Plowed through the whole series during many a dog walk. Also like his "Revolutions" series.
So THAT's what people are listening to when they walk past you with earbuds on, and blank stares on their faces? And I thought they were just trying blot out society while listening to loud music...not educating themselves.
More pratt-ness from the ego-maniacal one.... OF COURSE, IF LARD-ASS'S McDONALDS HABIT WERE TO DO IT'S BEST JOB IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS THEY COULD BE LEFT AT HALF-MAST......