And what exactly went down in Honduras with the coupe ? I heard a socialist professor today blaming Clinton but I didn't get the full details. @Catracho_Azul
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/9/hillary-clinton-honduraslatinamericaforeignpolicy.html I voted for not her.
Thanks for the link I'll read up. Al jazeera does really good work compared to the ny times and Washington posts of our country.
It's an opinion piece, so take it with a little grain of salt. You can do further digging on google. "Honduras Coupe Hillary Clinton".
The fact she mentions Harry Kissinger and takes his advice says it all. I wasn't surprised when he endorsed her early in the race. What him and Nixon did in chile was disgusting, and one of the bigger stains on this nation. Have you been to Honduras lately ? I remember you saying you went quite a bit to see the national team.
Piece of sh1t country. It's always been a country heavily dependent on American $$$. What the piece said about Honduran getting worse since the coupe is true and believe it or not.. it's getting even MORE worse. The bulk of the economy is generated and controlled by wealthy elites who came from Palestine. They capitalized on American corporations, so instead of money flowing to Hondurans, the money now flows through first and second generation jewish and arabic investors and businessman who catered to the needs of American corporations making $$$ off of Honduran backs. What Clinton did was further their grip on the country, but also opened up a pathway for new ways of corruption. Where there's money, there's power and alot of them got their money through American backed powers.
Whenever I have any relatives or friends ask about politics over here, I tell them one could argue it's not any better here than there. Since I've been able to vote, I haven't had a damn election where I could say I was definitely behind a candidate. It's either "throwing your vote away" or picking the lesser of evils.
Yep , just the economics of this country are what's dominant so less people notice how little choice they actually have. Plus a lot of dirty stuff this country does is either too complicated for lazy people or covered up.
People in Brazil have a hard time imaging a first world country with so much power not have a rosy picture painted about its politics. Another thing I can't stand is how you are forced to be pigeonholed on two sets of ideals. You can't lean one way on one issue and lean the other way on another. If don't want your taxes to go up, you have to be for the second Amendment, pro life, etc. If you are for gay marriage, you have to like sky high taxes and Obamacare raising your health premiums. Ok, you hate some of the things Trump says. Fine. But you have to enjoy that he has been able to get this far and make a mockery of the system. It needed a slap in the face. I hope this opens the door to someone else trying to change things up.
Exactly. Some issues I lean Republican, others I lean Democrat. So you have to choose what's most important to you. In a way yes it has been interesting to see the system being made a mockery. And that includes the media. He is just the wrong guy to change things up IMO.
Celito, Donald Trump said the following: When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people. He did not mean ALL Mexican immigrants are rapists, but he said that there are rapists and criminals crossing the border. Mexican cartels have associates/employees on the US side for their drug-smuggling operations, and many Mexican women have testified to having been raped by "coyotes" as they attempted to cross the border. It is true Trump plays on people's emotions, but in that respect, he's no different from any politician, for politicians know that most voters vote off of emotions. Few, relatively, are those who take the time to friamente examine, study, and assess a candidate's track record and actual policy positions.
I only wonder. If a Brazilian politician was aggressively nationalistic and wanted "Brasil Em Primeiro Lugar!" in terms of aggressively strengthening border security & expelling people living in Brazil illegally, pulling Brazilian troops from (the admittedly few) UN peacekeeping operations they have been in, lowering taxes to help the middle class and Brazilian businesses, and wanted to strengthen legal firearms ownership laws to help Brazilians defend themselves, their families, and their homes from criminals (a problem far more pervasive in Brazil than in the United States)... why would the average Brazilian - who is known to be very stubborn in his/her nationalism, despite harsh criticism towards corruption - oppose this? I definitely wouldn't, and neither would my friends & relatives.
Exactly what I said, they are bad people ... but I guess some are good. Fact is there are millions of illegals here and the US has turned a blind eye for decades. Most of those people are good people. You just don't say shit like that as a Presdential candidate IMO. Whatever good policies he might have are overshadowed by the absurd things he says and his inability to articulate them in an coherent matter. I can listen to him for 5 mins and tell he is just full of shit.
The US turned a blind eye for decades? George W. Bush once gave a live TV address on this. It was a serious issue during his presidency. And unknown to many is the fact that Barack Obama's presidency has overseen a very high # of deportations, such that he's been called the "Deporter-in-Chief." His problem is that he's crass, unfiltered, and blunt - whereas politicians are slick liars who know what and how to say the right things to please voters.
There were lots of talks about it but not much was really done. Yes, Obama has deported a lot of illegals that have committed crime and I am fine with that. That and better border security are good policies. You think Trump is any better with respect to lying ? The only difference is that he hasn't done it in a political setting yet.
Obama has deported more illegals than any other USA president in history. Most of which aren't criminals and most are Central Americans.
A lot of historians argue that there isn't much Brazilian nationalism regardless. It's fragmented at best and the country is really divided in three parts for me. Nordeste , the south where all the white people live , and the acre rondonia , Amazonia Ect out there. You are right tho , I think a lot of Brazilians would favor it. A lot of the bolsanaro club loves trump.
Trump is no angel. As I wrote, he's crass. But I understand why he atropelou 16 other candidates - all professional politicians - in the primaries (which had record turnouts). Trump has come this far because he's spoken truth to power - he's called out the utterly corrupt, dishonest, hypocritical, and self-serving political elite of the Republican Party who has for many years spoken "correct words" to their constituencies only to prove to be RINOs (Republicans in name only) who have mostly gone along with the Democrats. The omnibus bill was a shameful surrender. Hillary Clinton is intelligent, but she's a conniving, double-crossing, psychopathic liar and war criminal. She's a hawk no less aggressive than the Bush 43 preemptive war neocons and she has called Vladimir Putin "Hitler" a few times - not too smart given Russia gave an estimated 20 million people to fight and to defeat Nazi Germany. That's akin to calling the president of South Korea or China "Hirohito." Trump, if elected, may well piss off a lot of voters not unlike many felt betrayed by Barack Obama after going along with "hope and change" in 2008. But Clinton is a known - and thoroughly dangerous - entity whom I cannot and will never vote for. If she wins, we may all turn into radioactive glowsticks (and I'm not exaggerating). Trump at least wants detente with Russia - Hillary has contributed to the worst level of US-Russia relations since the height of the Cold War.
But the point is that it's not necessarily wrong for a politician to put his country first. Trump has been called a racist for that.
Yep especially on big soccer lol. Everyone here (in the politics section at least ) is a globalist/elitist who is doing great in the current system which specifically takes from the bottom and low middle class. Why would they vote against their own interests ? They will just claim moral supperiority regardless because trump said "bad things" and all republicans are racist.
In my view, the "fuss" concerns the fact that even with mass deportations under Obama, there are still over 10 million illegal immigrants in America and a lot of middle America folks are upset about that.
Because the cosmic war our media and political system create. Democrats care about people and don't want war and republicans the opposite. When in reality it's all the same neo liberal economics and neo liberal global ideas. Trump is the first candidate to not be a neo liberal since carter which is pretty scary.
Lawsonishere, I read posts like this and find it hard to believe you and I once had problems with each other. Political ideology is only a part of a person, but from what I read, you're definitely headed in the right direction (meaning, political ideology, philosophical outlooks, etc., mature and change over time; I was a Democrat once). Keep it up, Lawson - many folks far older than you think they are "in the know" but they are unaware as to how "unaware and compliant" (to quote one of the Podesta emails, thanks to Wikileaks) they are.
Yep and my hometown is one trump visited twice due to this. There's no jobs , no tax payers other than prison employees in a heavy industrial area. Now the main mechanism for survival is taking in refugees from Burma , Syria , and Bosnia before. Add a heavy population of blacks with no oppurtunities and add to the fact that these refugees surpass them on the totem pole quite quick it is a dumpster fire. It will be ignored until it becomes Ferguson , which it essentially is