Cucho Hernandez Artemis Rocket

Discussion in 'Columbus Crew' started by LaMacchia, Jun 21, 2022.

  1. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow. Wow. Wow. Hey Crew, pay Cucho now.
     
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  2. ColumbusFTW

    ColumbusFTW Member+

    Jul 18, 2018
    He's only 25, so he's still probably got 3-4 more years of being in his prime. Pay him.
     
  3. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #378 Bill Archer, Oct 17, 2024
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2024
    Put another way, the Haslams are paying a slimy, reprehensible piece of shit in Cleveland $50 million a year to go out every Sunday and take a big old dump on the field, but Cucho, who wins them championships, is bringing home around 5% of that.

    For a guy who you're not embarrassed to talk to children about.

    I'd like that big VP hoorah who now apparently runs the Crew to tell us how many DeShawn Watson jerseys they are selling up there.
     
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  4. hardhead

    hardhead Moderator
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    Aug 19, 2008
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  5. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    "Sending unsuitable videos" from what I'm hearing.

    I'm not sure I want to know more.
     
  6. Paul171121

    Paul171121 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 14, 2018
    He had to "pay some money for some money?" Hmm
     
  7. LaMacchia

    LaMacchia Member+

    Jul 12, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Sounds like Cucho send a video of his wiener to someone and they blackmailed him.
     
  8. soccerncbus

    soccerncbus Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Mar 29, 2018
    The man is always looking to score. A true number 9.
     
  9. eboe

    eboe Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 23, 2006
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Except for, you know, that pesky PERFORMANCE bit.
     
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  10. eboe

    eboe Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 23, 2006
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    That adds a whole new dimension to the name of this thread if true.
     
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  11. Paul171121

    Paul171121 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 14, 2018
    Finished second bafkreicn4pv5m4lhmwzhrq4i7c3hvi33o5mcgmoypqc2j3xs45iovbhiaa.jpg
     
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  12. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Not unexpected but considering the record of the Fighting Messi's when he wasn't available, not sure if MVP is warranted.
     
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  13. soccerncbus

    soccerncbus Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Mar 29, 2018
    We lost just one game when Cucho did not play this season. We picked up 15 points from 8 games without him across all competitions, or 1.88 ppg. Miami picked up 38 points during the 20 games they played without Messi, or 1.9 ppg. Pretty close to dead even.

    Also, it's hard to argue for a guy who registered 43 G+A in 41 appearances across all competitions over a guys who registered 42 G+A in just 25 appearances.

    I agree that there are numerous reasons why Cucho deserves the award. We made two cup finals. He dominated the Leagues Cup final. He was the best player on arguably the best team throughout the regular season, CCC, and LC combined.

    But there are plenty of reasons why Messi deserves the award too. And, as annoying as it may be, the name and status of a player definitely affects the voting. So Messi is always going to have an advantage.

    Ultimately, I'd say the average final vote is pretty fair. If Cucho could have dragged us to at least the conference finals, I think he might have been able to edge out Messi.
     
  14. Ball Kicker

    Ball Kicker Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Aug 11, 2022
    The votes were cast in the regular season….and it’s a regular season award so Leagues Cup or CCC should in theory have no impact on the voters.
     
  15. soccerncbus

    soccerncbus Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Mar 29, 2018
    Right. In theory those things shouldn't effect voters. They still do. I don't think Cucho would have been as close to Messi if it weren't for what the Crew did in CCC and LC because it's hard for voters to erase that from their memory.
     
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  16. Paul171121

    Paul171121 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 14, 2018
    I was surprised it was that close.

    And the voting window was open before the season ended to just after the season finished. You were only to consider the MLS regular season.
     
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  17. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
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    Columbus Crew
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  18. west ham sandwich

    Feb 26, 2007
    C-bus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Yeah, hard to complain when the players vote was 40% to 30%
     
  19. the_rickler

    the_rickler Member+

    Feb 9, 2013
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    This is America. Men and women fought for my right to complain. Cucho was robbed.
     
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  20. Ball Kicker

    Ball Kicker Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Aug 11, 2022
    Probably FO’s
     
  21. DCED2019

    DCED2019 Member

    Columbus Crew
    England
    Jun 6, 2024
    Yep, he and Nagbe got the consolation prizes.
     
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  22. Juli Veee

    Juli Veee Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Jul 18, 2023
    Cucho actually logged some defensive actions this year and didn’t stroll around the field when not involved with the ball. That’s the difference for me.

    having said that, I’m surprised it was this close.
     
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  23. Arthur_Maggot

    Arthur_Maggot Member+

    Jun 12, 2019
    Does anyone know if there is a shortlist they vote on or do they just fill in a players name?
     
  24. Black and Gold Forever

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Nov 23, 2024

    Since MLS announces a list of "finalist", I am thinking they have to choose from the list of "finalists".
     
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  25. Paul171121

    Paul171121 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 14, 2018
    It's then shortened down to 3 or 5 depending on the award.
     
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