Cuban as and investor - Discuss.

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by roscodog, Jan 23, 2003.

  1. roscodog

    roscodog New Member

    Mar 7, 2001
    KC
    I was reading this the Peter Wilt letter thread ( https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=29916 ) a few minutes ago. It reminded me of this article I read on ESPN by Mark Cuban (http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/story?page=FranchiseCuban).

    So I thought I would pose it to some of the minds here at bigsoccer to see what they thought. i am asking for a discussion, debate, compare and contrast of sorts. So keep the rivalries and dislike for basketball etc. to a minimum please.

    Realize that given the open ended nature of the discussion that there will be some conjecture.

    I hope this is as interesting as I could see it to be.

    Thanks

    Ps: I hope this is in the right place
     
  2. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    Santa Claus as an owner - Discuss
     
  3. roscodog

    roscodog New Member

    Mar 7, 2001
    KC
    diablodelsol:

    Santa Claus as an owner - Discuss


    I think that already occured in Saint Phil. Next please...
     
  4. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Mark Cuban as an MLS owner

    It will NEVER happen under Single Entity.

    Cuban is a hands-on, control-freak, maverick (pun intended) type of an owner. You think he wants the schmucks at the league office telling him what he can do with his billions? Of course not.

    Now, if MLS were to dissolve Single Entity, I could see Mark Cuban - and a bunch of other guys - being interested.
     
  5. Sweeper

    Sweeper New Member

    Feb 11, 1999
    Paging JMU, thread isn't true Analysis according to the Nazi dictates of your board. Please close down immediately and without hesitation, this eyesore of BigSoccer.......And you call yourself a moderator.
     
  6. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Re: Mark Cuban as an MLS owner

    Cuban doesn't give a rat's ass about soccer. Why would he invest in it?
     
  7. What about old Bill Ford? He played soccer in college and was the captain I think. The Detroit Lions suck, and America is becoming a winner in soccer. He has WAAAAAY more money than Mark Cuban.
     
  8. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    No way this thing gets to page two without being moved.
     
  9. pething101

    pething101 Member

    Jul 31, 2001
    Smyrna, Ga
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope it makes it to the second page.
     
  10. Pmoliu

    Pmoliu New Member

    Jun 7, 1999
    Princeton, NJ
    You guys really think that MLS could get someone like Fidel Castro to invest in MLS? Not sure how some of our current IOs would react to that... Plus the press would have a field day.

    Not to mention I think he is a bigger baseball fan than a soccer fan.

    Paul
     
  11. VON9905

    VON9905 New Member

    Aug 27, 2002
    Huntsville, AL, USA
    I really have no opinion on this topic, but I will do everything I can do to get this to a second page,lol.


    -VON
     
  12. profiled

    profiled Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Re: Re: Mark Cuban as an MLS owner

    Because he's a businessmen, and if he sees a chance to make a book he'll dive in.
     
  13. ProfZodiac

    ProfZodiac Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: Mark Cuban as an MLS owner

    Well said.

    Prof
     
  14. TheSlipperyOne

    TheSlipperyOne Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Denver
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Cuban has stated numerous times that he enjoys soccer but does not want to invest in MLS.
     
  15. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually, Cuban has stated several times that he's not particularly interested in soccer, and that's why he's not going to invest in MLS.

    The guy's an NBA owner because he's a huge hoops fan that made a zillion dollars.
     
  16. Northside Rovers

    Jan 28, 2000
    Austin TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And now...page 2.
     
  17. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hmm. Sounds like the Burn should try to get him out to Dragon Stadium once the basketball season's over. Start warming him up to soccer and all that.

    He's married now so I'd expect kids will be coming soon. And it's a known fact that all suburban kids in DFW play soccer for at least a year or two. Tell him, "Mark, you buy the Burn, and we'll hold all the free clinics your kids' soccer teams will ever want." Now how could he pass on a deal like that! ;)
     
  18. pething101

    pething101 Member

    Jul 31, 2001
    Smyrna, Ga
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can we make page 3?
     
  19. GPK

    GPK BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 5, 1999
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess we've slipped up. I guess I took the wrong time to have a dinner break and get some work done ;)
     
  20. scotto

    scotto Member

    Feb 13, 2001
    Bonny Doon, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seriously folks. I don't think it's too far fetched to somehow get Mark Cuban involved with soccer in this country. The secret is to go after his other passion -- HDTV. Cuban is one of the biggest proponents of the new high definition technology and launched his HDNet satellite network as the first 24 hour high definition channel a few years ago. He has been scrambling for quality content to fill the time and just recently launched HDNet Movies and just swung a deal with Warner Brothers for rights to a number of their HD films transfers.

    Where does MLS enter into this? If any of you have seen anything broadcast in HDTV (5 times the resolution of regular TV, DD 5.1 sound, greater color saturation), it's so obviously the perfect medium for broadcasting soccer -- widescreen, higher resolution (so you can actually see the players numbers, etc. in the standard wide shot). In addition to broadcasting Major League Baseball, some college football and basketball, HDNet has also bought the HD broadcasts to minor sports like Indoor Lacrosse and Winter Olympic Qualifying (things like Biathlon and Curling), so there's no reason to think that he'd be opposed to showing soccer. I'd love to see MLS swing a deal with him to broadcast one game a week in High Definition. I could also see AEG/SUM working with him for international exhibitions, World Cup Qualifying, etc. This is definitely the way to catch his interest. Maybe if he gets into it, he may invest in the league. Even if he doesn't, who cares. We'll still have great quality broadcasts.

    If any of you have the chance, catch a sporting event in HDTV. It's amazing.
     
  21. csh2000

    csh2000 New Member

    Nov 2, 2000
    Chicago
    Re: Re: Re: Mark Cuban as an MLS owner

    Any word on who his publisher will be? When will it be completed and available in stores? This could definitely become an NYT best seller...
     
  22. bostonsoccermdl

    bostonsoccermdl Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 3, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Re: Re: Mark Cuban as an MLS owner

    He doesnt have to love the sport or care for it, most owners look at purchasing a team as an investment for a future return., and some do love the sport too...
    Think of it like a stock or real estate investment, you really dont care about the actual property or what the business does, but what it could reap for you in terms of return..
     
  23. Andy_B

    Andy_B Member+

    Feb 2, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is the whole point. MLS is so far away from any sort of "profit" that the only people who would want to invest are people who love the sport.

    No on in their right mind is going to jump into MLS after the first 7 years of financial results.

    This is the reason owners keep jumping out of the pool and not in.

    Andy
     
  24. Dave Brull

    Dave Brull Member

    Mar 9, 2001
    Mayfield Hts, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    <b>doesnt have to love the sport or care for it, most owners look at purchasing a team as an investment for a future return., and some do love the sport too.
    Think of it like a stock or real estate investment, you really dont care about the actual property or what the business does, but what it could reap for you in terms of return.</b>

    OK, I know you meant this seriously, but return? What financial return has MLS given any owner? Yeah, they cook the book somewhat, but name one owner who has made money. And if you can tell me one, that's great. I'd still be skeptical.

    Marc Cuban bought a basketball team cause that what he loves. The man is obviously very passionate (the way a staker is passionate) about basketball. That's why he bought a team. Cause he wanted to be involved with basketball. If I had his money, sure I'd invest in soccer. But the man knows how to make money. If you've ever seen a game in Dallas, you'd want to go back.

    Would he invest in soccer. No. He put's his money where his mouth is (see Dairy Queen) and soccer and his mouth aren't together.

    DB
     
  25. drunkmonkey

    drunkmonkey New Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Dallas, Tx
    Cuban, as much as I can't stand the unibrow freak, is a great owner for the Mavs because he loves the game. He is just the type of owner that MLS needs. Fanatics w/ business smarts as owners. As mentioned before, he isn't interested in owning the Burn. He has said before that he wishes the Burn luck but he isn't into soccer & has his plate full with Mavs. Would be pretty funny to hear him rant against the refs...he thinks they are bad in the NBA:D Like to hear him talk smack bout Agoos or Etcheverry like he does Shaq.......yeah we need owners just like him. Maybe Charles Barkley & Warren Sapp would like to go in on a team?
     

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