Cuba: A US Manufactured Humanitarian Crisis

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  1. Sufjan Guzan

    Sufjan Guzan Member+

    Feb 13, 2016
    Due to the capture of Nicholas Maduro, Venezuela is no longer supplying oil to Cuba which has finally resulted in the vast majority of the island's population having no access to power and sources of water. Waste is piling up and their sewage system is flowing through the streets. Stateside we are seeing very little coverage and what we are seeing is that it is being caused by the failed government. Internationally, it is being noted that the United States cut off the flow of oil to Cuba and has instituted a blockade around the island. A Russian Tanker that was bringing fuel to the Island was prohibited by the US Navy.

    So failed government because of socialism? Or once again, socialism having to contend with direct violent intervention from the United States?

    Discuss. People are going to be dying soon.


    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article314691535.html

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026...imposed-fuel-blockade-halts-collection-trucks

    https://maritime-executive.com/arti...-tanker-bound-for-cuba-with-vital-fuel-supply
     
  2. Q*bert Jones III

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    Absoluely heartbreaking. I don't really see much difference between this and a medieval siege.
     
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  3. Sounders78

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    CNN has had articles and videos on the situation and the blame is directly on the orange idiot's administration.
     
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  4. Kryptonite

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    Republicans: "This is socialism! This is what the Dems want to install and if you're not careful, it'll be here in the US soon!"

    And this is why a lot of Hispanics vote Republican.
     
  5. Quakes05

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    no doubt, it works.
     
  6. Pittsburgh Ref

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    Every. Fvcking. Thread.
     
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  7. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    Liddle Marco! :mad:

    "We’re talking to Cuba right now, and Marco Rubio is talking to Cuba right now, and they should absolutely make a deal. Because it’s really a humanitarian threat,” he said.
     
  8. superdave

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    I’m putting him on ignore. Someone PM me if he says anything original.
     
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  9. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

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    As always, I'm one step ahead of you.
     
  10. Quakes05

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    You guys are hilarious. But you’re going to have to toughen up a bit and stop being so whiny.

    These are serious times.
     
  11. Sufjan Guzan

    Sufjan Guzan Member+

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    Do I get an achievement for this?A digital cookie if you will?
     
  12. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

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    Don't bet on it.

    [​IMG]
     
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  13. Quakes05

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    Yes, a cookie for you. You’ve earned it. Well done.
     
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  14. Robert Borden

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    The Cuba crisis : one of the most evil thing the US has ever done to another nation. And for what? Before the revolution, Cuba under Batista had effectively become a casino‑tourism playground dominated by US organized crime, corruption and exploitation. Havana’s nightlife industry was built on gambling, prostitution and deep social inequality, all protected by Batista’s regime.

    Racial discrimination was also embedded in that system. Many elite clubs and establishments barred Afro‑Cubans and even Batista himself who was not considered “white enough” by the island’s old aristocracy was excluded from certain private, whites‑only spaces.

    So when Rubio talks about “restoring” pre‑revolution Cuba, he means returning to a model built on foreign control, corruption, racial exclusion and exploitation - a paradise for his pedo-friends and elites.

    Truly evil and this just further crashes US perception across the world
     
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  15. Sufjan Guzan

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    And the neoliberals on this board would rather make personal attacks than address their internal contradictions and alignment with fascism.

    They should DM me when they have something new to say.
     
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  16. Robert Borden

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    It comes from a place of exceptionalism and race supremacy. Hearing Rubio trying so hard to relate to his Spanish-white roots was truly a pathetic spectacle.

    The Cubans have resisted for decades and they will keep resisting. China is deploying solar panels to reduce Cuba's dependency on non-renewable energy. We might very well see the US blockade leading to the electrification of Cuba - wouldn't that be ironic?
     
  17. Sufjan Guzan

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    His failure to mention African Americans, The Chinese(who built the railroads), and Native Americans was extremely telling. Italians, the Irish, and Jewish people? They all get to benefit from proximity to whiteness, while these other groups who have been here longer, been exploited longer? Tough nuggets you aren’t in the club.

    It’s incredible how neoliberals can’t extend this “empathy” they pretend to have for marginalized groups abroad unless these groups are under the evil thumb of socialism. Because again, they aren’t benefiting from
    being able to exploit them. Swallowing US State Department propaganda with their full throats.

    Democracy is what? Personal sovereignty. Collectively nations should be allowed to what? Have an extension of that sovereignty. Who are the US “enemies”? Countries that defy the global banking system and refuse to submit to Capitalism. Why do those nations refuse to submit? Because they were tired of colonial exploitation. Why have they been allowed to exist outside of control? Because of geography (islands, mountains, distance), weaponry (nuclear weapons), and in China’s case a belief that they could be brought into the fold.

    Make no mistake what is happening to Cuba is the same thing happening to people in this country donning a different cloak.
     
  18. TyLand

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    You act like crisis in Cuba is new. I was living in Miami when they changed the law so that Cubans intercepted at sea could be returned. Prior, bodies washed up on the beaches all the time from desperate people attempting to cross on unseaworthy rafts.
    Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela, Cambodia, Ukraine, China, every time the communist government starves and murders its own citizens. If you support and endorse communism, you are just as evil as those who support fascism.
     
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  19. Sufjan Guzan

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    I would too also take this position if I viewed situations in a vacuum. I don’t however. How naive neoliberals are for failing to understand how US Foreign Policy dictates situations across the Globe. Hell the Trump administration just admitted they manufactured the economic crisis that led to Iranians protesting in the past couple of months.
     
  20. soccernutter

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    This would be far more interesting if you hadn't of add this bit. And the issue is not socialism, or even the US, it is Republicans, and more importantly, Trump. Republicans and Trump don't value human life that does not benefit them or their view of the world. Obama started to normalize relations, and that put the Right into a hissy fit. This is a humanitarian crisis, not related to socialism. Just as Iran is not related to socialism. Or Gaza. Or just about any place USAID was going.
     
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  21. soccernutter

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    You are just as bad as Quakes regarding socialism, though from the other side. This is not about socialism, this is about the Trump Administration flexing their muscles trying to put on a show of power. Only they only pick on countries they see as weak.

    You need to source this. Don't tell, source.
     
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  22. Sufjan Guzan

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    https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/econo...tage-to-trigger-iran-protests-what-that-means

    Remarks from Scott Bessent, US Secretary of the Treasury.

    Replying to a query about dealing with Iran at a Congressional hearing last week, Treasury Secretary Bessent described the US strategy to send the Iranian currency plunging.

    “What we [have done] at Treasury is created a dollar shortage in the country,” Bessent said, adding that the strategy came to a “grand culmination in December, when one of the largest banks in Iran went under … the Iranian currency went into freefall, inflation exploded, and hence, we have seen the Iranian people out on the street.

    “We have seen the Iranian leadership wiring money out of the country like crazy,” Bessent added. “So the rats are leaving the ship, and that is a good sign that they know the end may be near.”

    Before this, speaking with Fox News at the World Economic Forum last month in Davos, Bessent explained the role US sanctions played in driving the recent nationwide protests.

    “President Trump ordered Treasury … to put maximum pressure on Iran, and it’s worked,” he said. “Because in December, their economy collapsed. They are not able to get imports, and this is why the people took to the streets.”

    In both instances, Bessent referred to his earlier remarks at the Economic Club of New York, in March last year, when he outlined how the White House would leverage President Donald Trump’s “maximum pressure” campaign to collapse Iran’s economy.

    In his address there, Bessent said the US “elevated a sanctions campaign against [Iran’s] export infrastructure, targeting all stages of Iran’s oil supply chain”, coupled with “vigorous government engagement and private sector outreach” to “close off Iran’s access to the international financial system”.


    personal comment from me: See how Venezuela is related? It’s been about Iran for months. You want to know why they were targeting the speedboats? Guess who has speedboats with cruise missiles attached to them? Iran. They were testing new weapons systems on fishermen in preparation for this war of aggression that we are creating on Israel’s behalf. The new Venezuelan President as well as Colombia’s President said as much after the capture of Maduro.

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/venezuelas-acting-president-says-us-attack-had-zionist-undertones
     
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  23. soccernutter

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    You are vastly simplifying things. From the article:

    A research paper published by Farzanegan and Iranian American economist Nader Habibi last year found that the size of Iran’s middle class would have expanded by an annual average of approximately 17 percentage points, between 2012 and 2019, if it were not for US action.

    ...

    Besides the US action is the existing vulnerability of Iran’s economic structure, with factors like long-term mismanagement, high rates of corruption and over-reliance on oil revenues making it fragile.

    While the US sanctions created external shock, a lack of domestic structural reforms left the government with “no fiscal space to cushion the blow”.

    Now, I'm trying to be an expert on Iran here, but just preventing Iran access to the global banking market would not cause the collapse. Additionally, you also need to take anything anybody says from this administration crowing about their achievements with a heavy dose of salt.

    Iran has a long history of corruption and poor economic management. They also have a history of brain drain that goes back to 1979. They've been able to prop themselves up because of the vast oil reserves they have, but they have not diversified their economy very much, and have always been effected by the swings in the price of oil. Beyond that, they have a physical structural problem in that they have a massive population center in Tehran, and along the Caspian Sea. They have recognized the problem and are trying to do what a bunch of other countries are doing by creating a new city, but it looks to be poorly planned. Much like a lot of the rest of the economy. On top of that, Iran has massive corruption, so big that it might not be sustainable even in good economic conditions. And they have issues with construction and water and very bad air pollution around Tehran. Not to mention these protests can be linked to the Mahsa Amini protests of 2022.

    So Bessant's comments should be seen more in the context of pushing over an already heavily tilting building.

    There are other issues as well, but that is for a different conversation.

    Nope. You are doing conspiracy stuff without clear connections, and you are treading into antisemitism...again. And these "new" weapon systems are not really new, assuming you are talking about LRADs.
     
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  24. Sufjan Guzan

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    Feb 13, 2016


    The US has also been levying economic sanctions against Iran for decades off and on which also complicate these matters. Iran was following the deal President Obama signed until Trump pulled us out of it. Obviously there is more to the story, but the central point remains—>we have been the aggressors here.

    How am I being anti-semitic? Am I allowed to criticize Israel for anything or imply that a country that doesn’t follow any international laws and is obsessed with its own survival would encourage us to attack Venezuela is kind of grounded in reality based on comments from the country that was attacked itself. Where is Cuba’s oil now going to instead of Cuba and Venezuela?

    Connecting dots that exist isn’t like believing the world is flat. Rememeber how Israel got their nuclear weapons? Who they stole the material from and secrets from? It’s a country that doesn’t abide by international laws or norms. Criticizing them isn’t hating jewish people.
     
  25. Robert Borden

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    With the supreme court ruling against those illegal tariffs, the threat against any country supplying Cuba with oil on humanitarian ground is also bullshit.

    Good, that blockade needs to be broken further exposing the US for the monster it is
     

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