Cub Scout Troop Bars Mentally Retarded Child

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  1. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax

    yeah, same thing there :rolleyes:
     
  2. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan PLANITARCHIS' BANE

    Paris Saint Germain
    United States
    Apr 8, 2002
    Baltimore
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Now this post, OTOH...
     
  3. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078
    umm, guys


    this group excludes people based on merely their sexual orientation



    why should they be any different now?
     
  4. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The whole question of kids who have a variety of conditions in Scouting is trobling to me.Several fellows who are in the agency I work for have their own Scout troop.They are adults,so really wouldn't fit in any other type of troop.Besides,they are all friends.

    Current DD philosophy would suggest that the troop be disbanded,as it is clearly not age appropriate. Yet the men involved would be devastated if this were taken from them.

    One person we haven't heard from is the boy.Has anyone observed his behavior in this setting?Possibly he acts out in response to teasing from scouts.Possibly he engages in some form of self-stimulation (no not THAT form) which kids or parents found disturbing.Maybe his behavior is a sign that despite what his aunt wants,he hates scout meetings.

    I was able to leave Scouting by saying,"I'm done with that."Did this boy have that option?We don't know.

    I am far more interested in this family than I am the parents of the "normals".You see one normal ,you've seen them all. :)
     
  5. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    http://www.scouting.org/factsheets/02-503.html


    i was in scouts for a while - i was not terribly interested in rising through the ranks or getting merit badges, but was up for any nature exploring trip (hike, canoe, cave, camp, etc.) - my troop had a (insert your favorite) kid and he certainly acted out a little at times, but nobody tried to make him go away - everyone liked him and that was that

    people need to grow the f*** up
     
  6. John Galt

    John Galt Member

    Aug 30, 2001
    Atlanta
    Fair enough Mel, but let me reframe the issue to one that you are highly sensitive about. Were we to learn that a black child had been excluded from a Cub Scout troop, how would you react to the poster that said "Wait, we don't know the whole story. Maybe he was playing rap music and selling crack all the time in the meetings."

    My point is not that there may be legitimate sides to the issue. As in my example above, perhaps this particular hypothetical black child really was a disruption to the meetings and did not participate with the troop. My point was simply that starting with the assumption that this developmentally delayed child was acting out in inappropriate ways, without anything in the story suggesting that was the case, is the kind of stereotyping that is harmful to the rights of children with disabilities.

    While I am intentionally being overly strident towards posters who are generally open minded people, my purpose is to point out the harm inherent in making assumptions about the behavior of disabled children and excusing inappropriate reactions to those with disabilities.
     
  7. IntheNet

    IntheNet New Member

    Nov 5, 2002
    Northern Virginia
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fair enough, but since the facts in this case are unknown, except by the principals in this case; i.e., the Cub Scout Committee and Pack 765 of the Boy Scouts, regarding the child in question, all the speculation, assumtions and hypotheticals you can conjure are fools errand! Let the Pack control their own...
     
  8. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]*

    You just made the list buddy.

    *can't believe images are still off.
     
  9. Pathogen

    Pathogen Member

    Jul 19, 2004
    Like you care.
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, they should've just eaten the kid. Survival of the fitest and all. BTW, how did you survive your childhood?
     
  10. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He hasn't gotten past it yet.
     
  11. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan PLANITARCHIS' BANE

    Paris Saint Germain
    United States
    Apr 8, 2002
    Baltimore
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fair enough, I guess I feel like I know the folks online personas enough to not call that particular wise-ass-ness to task; I DO admit that were it someone saying that who I didn't "know," I might have reacted differently, so your point is well taken.
     

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