http://www.femexfut.org.mx/federacion/VistaNoticia.php?id=1760 here is what they sent the FMF.. I would actually agree with the punishment if I didnt know how 2 faced and hipocrits the CONMEBOL execs are...
This is from the Femexfut site that RDL supplied. Maybe its a Typo or something but if I understand this right this says that his suspension from CONMBEBOL turnaments is effective as of 11-05-2004... Thats four months after Copa America... Again this might just be a typeo or maybe I just don't understand these rules.
i don't get it...So you agree the punishment is deserved, but you know that the hearts of those running Conmebol are evil in nature and therefore it isn't right? And those of you who feel this is part of a conspiracy: get a clue!
seriously. Blanco caused the worst riot in history of estadio azteca, the very lives of the brazilian players was put on risk, it cost America the support they needed for the liguilla game when they had the stadium empty. Not to mention that Blanco provoked players throughout Copa Libertadores and not just the Sao Caetano players. there is no excuse for his behavior. If you make excuses for it and little conspiracy theories you are not showing a mature objective view of this.
An old VS favorite: "Tragos de amargo licor que no me hacen olvidar y me siento como un cobarde y hasta me pongo a llorar".
What is so hard to get? When suspensions, fines, etc, are not the same across the board for everyone, then I dont agree with them, no matter how severe or how minute the punishment is. Blanco elbowed a player. THAT IS IT! When 2 America de Cali defenders punched Cuauhtemoc Blanco, they were never suspended for a year. Some will say, But he started the riot. NO. He did not. He did not cuase the riot. He did not participate in the riot. He even shook the hand of the players he had the physical altercation with and hugged and kissed the players after the game. Blanco elbowing a player and fans running onto the field are 2 totally different things. The loss cuased that, not Blanco's elbow. Azteca officials are to blame for not having enough security. Stadium violence, violence against players, coaches happens more often than people would like in South America. What happened in Azteca was minor compared to the shyt that goes down in South America. YOu tell people to get a clue, well I tell you to get informed first.... I have said for the longest time, Santos Laguna's stadium is by far the worst in Mexico. It shouldnt even be a top flight stadium. If the CONMEBOL said to the FMF that they couldnt use that stadium because of the lighting and did not have the required capacity.. FINE I agreeeee. But when the CONEMBOL says that and then allow Cobreloa to host Copa Libertaodres games with a stadium that holds less than 15K and has wooden bleachers.... Santos bought floodlights, remodeled the lockerrooms, and painted the stadium... and still they did not want to let them... Santos had to re adjust the floodlights. Where is the transparency??? thats why i dont agree with that suspension... where is the transperency??? just go back and reread some of the post about hte copa lib.. and you will see how the FMF and thier clubs get the shaft... no transparency
Blanco did not cuase the riot.... Blanco is the easy way out... Blanco exchanging words or having a physical altercation during the game is one thing. Right or wrong... it was during the game... blaming Balnco for Azteca officials real easy. No one has said anythign about Navia or Castillo... they are the ones who actually were going at it with the opposing players. right or wrong... what goes on the field satys on the field... Azteca officials are to blame for not having enough people. What ever altercations X player has, whether it be verbal or physical... is irrelevant. You will open a whole can of worms if you want to hold players accountable for the actions of stadium officials and fans...hellll.. while we are at it... lets sue Corona for making the fans a litle drunk... lets take it a little further... lets sue the company that makes the cups becuse it held the beer...
rdl Can u post links of the Mexican press criticizing/expressing the unfairness of the punishment, or how it was done to undermine Mexico's chances in Copa America? (or as someone posted earlier 'para que no tengan buena participacion') I'd like to see the way they argue the points you tried to present
Americayya.com just look down and look at the archives... the folks who set up that site do a pretty good job linking up all the news that pertain to America from different media sites. You can read articles from Yahoo, Notimex, TV Azteca, Esmas, Esto, Ovaciones, Cronica, etc You got federations postponing league play because of fan violence. You got fans going to practice facilities and threatening players and coaches. You have family members of footballers getting kidnapped and killed. You have fans jump the field attack players and refs. Those are things that players have no control about. But dont tell me that they also dont get into phycial altercations.. because that is all what Blanco did. And that was during the match. Why did the fans wait close to 10 minutes after Blanco's physical altercation? It is safe to say that the loss instigated that... not Castillo or Navia exchanging words with the Sao Caetano GK after the match.. and for CONMEBOL to say that Blanco's case is open and shut case is very unprofessional on thier part because it is CLEAR that they have not seen all sides of the story... that is not fair for the FMF. That is not fair for Blanco, who did even start the fight after the game.
Las sanciones más severas Es interesante revisar las sanciones más recientes que ha impuesto la Confederación Sudamericana de Futbol, en Copa Libertadores y Merconorte, desde 1990 para llegar a la conclusión que los criterios no son siempre los mismos como se verá reflejado en el caso de la bronca entre San Lorenzo (Argentina) y Concepcion (Chiule), en 2001. EN 2003, SUSPENSIÓN DE BEDOYA La Confederación Sudamericana de Fútbol aplicó un año de suspensión al jugador colombiano Bedoya (Racing Club de Argentina) por aplicarle un golpe al árbitro asistente Carlos Torres, de Paraguay, en el partido Racing-América de Cali, el pasado 13 de mayo, por los octavos de final de la Copa Libertadores 2003. El informe del árbitro Epifanio González (Paraguay) se consignó que al finalizar la serie de penaltis que definió el encuentro, Bedoya agredió al árbitro asistente Carlos TORRES, con un golpe de codo en el estómago, hecho agravado con una serie de insultos contra la terna arbitral. EN 2002, SUSPENSIÓN DE DANRLEI El informe del árbitro Sr. Sergio Komjetan, quien dirigió el juego por la Copa Libertadores, en Asunción, el 12 de marzo, entre 12 de Octubre (Paraguay) y Gremio de Porto Alegre (Brasil) señala que el jugador brasileño Danrlei de Deus Hinterholz agredió de hecho al árbitro asistente Walter Enrique Rial con "un puntapié a la altura del tobillo". Danrlei fue suspendido un año para toda actividad internacional bajo el patrocinio de la CONMEBOL. EN 2001, SAN LORENZO-CONCEPCIÓN Aquí queda marcada la diferencia. En una bronca multidinaria y similar a lo del Azteca no se midió con la misma vara. Esta fue la resolución en ese partido: suspender por dos partidos por la Copa Libertadores al jugador Horascio Ameli (San Lorenzo), expulsado por insultar al árbitro del encuentro. Y cuatro partidos para los jugadores Washington Sebastián Abreu y Raúl Estévez (San Lorenzo), por intento de agresión al árbitro luego de concluido el partido. Y con ocho, al jugador Lucas Pusineri (San Lorenzo) por ser responsable de la agresión al jugador Vïctor Cancino (Deportes Concepción). También se llamó la atención al Deportes Concepción por la débil organización y la ineficaz seguridad en el control de ese partido, que permitió el inadecuado comportamiento de los recogebolas y del público, y la sobredimensionada severidad con la que actuaron los miembros de la policía encargados de brindar seguridad NECAXA-ALIANZA LIMA, MERCONORTE 2000 La Confederación Sudamericana de Fútbol, con fecha 31 de agosto de 2000, emitió la siguiente resolución con motivo de los hechos de violencia protagonizados entre jugadores y asistentes de la banca técnica de los equipos Alianza Lima, de Perú, y Necaxa, de México, en partido que disputaron el 24 de agosto pasado, en la primera fase de la Copa Merconorte. Los jugadores del Necaxa Sergio Almaguer, un partido; y Salvador Cabrera y José María Higareda, cuatro; Paulo Hinostroza y Galileo Percovich (Alianza), seis partidos de castigo.
The humpback (Cuauhtemoc) is the biggest A$!#@*& in Mexican soccer. I am always embarrased by his childish antics when he plays for the Mexican National team. I hope he rots in hell for all I care. The South Americans should ban that bastard for life. What a waste of talent.
Workers repair wooden bleachers at Peru's National Stadium in Lima on Thursday, June 3, 2004. Copa America organizers decided on May 25 to use the 1950 stadium to open and close the July tournament...
Let's get something straight. Blanco has been headed towards this for a long time. When suspensions are handed out, past behavior and attitude are rightly taken into account. Everybody knows Cuauhtemoc's attitute and that he loves to incite and intimidate. Unfortunately, we also know he is often full of it. Many's the time all of us have witnessed him badgering some opponent, but making sure he backs away and gets cover before the guy pops him a shot. He's basically nothing but lip. It's been brought up that he was hugging and kissing players after the "altercation." Perhaps so, but that is part of the act. Some rough-housing is fine--it's a contact sport--but this guy knows exactly what he is doing. His elbow started the whole imbroglio. He put the events in motion. His actions led to teammates, fanaticos, and even stadium personnel(!) punching and kicking visiting players. To deny this is to deny reality. The man must be taught to keep a level head before somebody gets killed. Apparently, America management and its technicos are not inclined to step in and put a stop to it. That is why it's escalated to this point, and CONMEBOL is taking charge.
Excellent points! I have always viewed him as the worst type of player for football anywhere. Period. His is calculating and very cowardly in his actions. He incites and then runs and hides by allowing others to make up excuses, and to make up theories, to lay blame elsewhere. In this age of misinforamtion many can easily lay blame elsewhere for what happened at Azteca, some of it justified, but as in most cases when Blanco is involved it always seems to start with him. When a player of his skill and ability, and high profile, acts like this, it brings the game into disrepute. He is reviled by many because of this sneaky, cowardly, and two faced way of playing. The reason most fans look for other answers and excuses, like all other fans in all other sports, is because of his skill and ability. If he was an average player there would be very little debate over this. Blanco uses his popularity, skill and ability and hides behind it. He is a calculating actor. Only hard core America fans will not want to see this at any cost. This is the same in any sport, not just singling out Blanco. Players like him will always be reviled and fans of that team will blindly jump through hoops, ignoring facts and history defending them, so they can keep on playing. It is a shame.
at least they have some concrete... i was watching news shows... some of the stadiums in South America that have hosted Cop Lib games... a good section of thier stands are wooden bleachers... no wooden seats.. im talking about everything..
Al parecer despues del 2001, las sanciones se han vuelto mas severas, usando tus ejemplos..San Lorenzo-Concepcion las sanciones fueron leves, considerando las acciones, pero lo fueron tambien con Alianza-Necaxa de Mexico en el ejemplo previo (2000).....Para mi no habria ningun problema en que la CONMEBOL se ponga mas severa, y siguiendo tus ejemplos, parece que comenzo el 2002 con Darlei... http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/story?id=237291 Blanco dijo a la televisión local sentirse triste porque no fue el iniciador de la gresca, y confió en que la directiva del América y la Federación Mexicana de fútbol reclamen. "Es injusto, no fui el que empezó ese relajo", señaló Blanco, quien no podrá representar a México el próximo mes de julio en la Copa América, ni estará en ninguna otra competición de la Conmebol en los próximos 12 meses (is this -what follows- true?) http://www.pe.com/columns/bueno/stories/PE_Sports_Local_soccer_column05.a0bfe.html Blanco hurts club, country In his career, Cuauhtemoc Blanco has provided brilliant moments for both Club America as well as Mexico. Now, it seems he can only do wrong. Blanco has been suspended from any CONMEBOL events for the next year and was fined $50,000 for inciting a riot during a Copa Libertadores match. Temperamental and moody, Blanco has always caused a stir. Against Brazilian side Sao Caetano last month, though, Blanco sparked a riot in Estadio Azteca. Near the end of Sao Caetano's 1-1 draw with America, which ousted the Mexicans from Copa Libertadores, Blanco elbowed an opposing player, immediately earning a red card. Instead of leaving the field, however, he apparently lingered in the tunnel and ran back onto the pitch to finish what he started. Yo trato usualmente solo ver las mejores jugadas del juego en la tele (Fox Sports Noticias), pero me acuerdo ver a Blanco pretendiendo alejarse del jugador al que luego golpeo....Eso como que hace la accion mas cobarde, no? Admas, con la historia que tiene, complica tener completa imparcialidad hacia el.....de parte de fans (como los que han escrito arriba) y en cierta forma, por parte de las autoridades....
The part about Instead of leaving the field, however, he apparently lingered in the tunnel and ran back onto the pitch to finish what he started. Is not true.
Not to sound weird but, in all honesty.. I'd rather have that A$!#@*& up front than Palencia, Bravo or Bofo (true positions aside). Y eso que le voy a las Chivas.
Thats your opinion....I think your dead wrong but hey thats your opinion. Blanco with America hasnt done squat. When Humpback went to Spain America won the championship, when he came back they started to suck again.