Croatia - Spain: Björn KUIPERS (NED)

Discussion in 'Euro 2016: Refereeing' started by akindc, Jun 21, 2016.

  1. akindc

    akindc Member+

    Jun 22, 2006
    Washington, DC
    Sorry, didn't see a thread...hope you don't mind that I started one.

    In the 70th minute or so, Kuipers calls a debatable penalty on Croatia.
    The GK saves the PK, but he was a MILE off his line and the refs let it go. Really, don't think I've ever seen much worse. If anyone has a pic, please post.
     
  2. puyol

    puyol Member+

    FC Barcelona
    Dec 24, 2009
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Debatable ?!?!?! the defender got shoved from behind into Silva by another spanish player , should've been a foul FOR Croatia not a PK.

    Also there was a clear foul from Ramos which should've resulted in a Penalty before this incident , yet the Ref and his assistant couldn't spot it even though he was standing right in front of it..
     
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  3. chaoslord08

    chaoslord08 Member

    Dec 24, 2006
    Fayetteville AR
    Club:
    West Bromwich Albion FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MassRef said to go ahead and start them. Here are three I just took.

    IMG_1688[1].JPG IMG_1689[1].JPG IMG_1690[1].JPG

    Looks roughly 2.5-3 yards off his line. Looks like whoever said "The mandatory caution will mean it gets called even less" was spot on.
     
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  4. HoustonRef

    HoustonRef Member

    May 23, 2009
    Yes, the keeper movement was very significant. One has to wonder if Kuipers was having second thoughts about the call itself.
     
  5. BigManIntheMiddle

    Jan 10, 2013
    Inland Empire, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. cromagnum

    cromagnum Member+

    Aug 13, 2007
    Never ever penalty in a million years. Yet everyone is complaining about Subasic coming off his line to early.
     
  7. RedStar91

    RedStar91 Member+

    Sep 7, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    In all seriousness, when was the last time anyone has ever seen a PK retaken for keeper coming off his line? In all my years of watching European soccer and high level international soccer, I don't recall that call ever being made.

    I'm not saying that it should'nt have been retaken, it should have. It's just that according to history you shouldn't expect that call to be made.
     
  8. akindc

    akindc Member+

    Jun 22, 2006
    Washington, DC
    Because we like to talk about interesting and unique calls on here, and there's nothing gained in simply bashing a bad call.
    The fact that the GK came crazy off his line and it wasn't re-taken is an interesting talking point, the weak PK call, less so.
     
  9. Ref Flunkie

    Ref Flunkie Member

    Oct 3, 2003
    New Hudson, MI
    Half the Croatian field players were in the area early too.
     
  10. chaoslord08

    chaoslord08 Member

    Dec 24, 2006
    Fayetteville AR
    Club:
    West Bromwich Albion FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not expecting it necessarily, because as you say it is extremely rare, but that looked like it was more egregious than is normally allowed. It will probably take a lot more than that with the mandatory caution now, though.
     
  11. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Wrong decision by giving the penalty to Spain.
    The penalty should be repeated.
    Croatian goalkeeper went out of the line too early.
    Croatian players entered in the area of 16 meters too early.
    Jedvaj cleared the ball, because he had advantage in steps.
    The referee didn't wanted to repeat the penalty, because he knew that he made injustice with this penalty.
    First mistake removes the second mistake.
    Good decision was by not giving the penalty for Croatia during Pjaca's lets say diving and late fall.
     

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