Criticism of the political left

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  1. soccernutter

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    Been seeing this all morning. At first I was surprised, but the more I kept seeing this, it seemed like some kind of smear campaign with a dose of racism (anti-Somalian).
     
  2. chaski

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    Is he the last Waltz?
     
  3. superdave

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    Nah, he’s got kidz
     
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  4. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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  5. ceezmad

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    #3730 ceezmad, Dec 2, 2025
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    I am not sure if this is the left fault, or just America overall failure.

    We are a country of disabled people.


    "- At Brown and Harvard, more than 20% of undergraduates are registered as disabled
    - At Amherst: more than 30 percent
    - At Stanford: nearly 40 percent"




    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazin...opy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share
     
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  6. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    I'll go with Left's fault
     
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  7. ceezmad

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    So Democrats finally have full control of the Senate.

    What do they do?

    Force the Governor to veto a law about dog insurance.

     
  8. Khan

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    Ok, ok, ok... Hear me out:


    How in fvkc's name can this fvkcing be "the left's fault," and not just hyperprivilged @ssholes gaming the system?

    Or, more likely, using William of Ockham's default setting, just mentally weak Gen Z types gaming the system?


    I'll hang up and listen for my answer.
     
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  9. Val

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    Well, the biggest request for accommodations is more time on tests. And to be frank, timed tests probably reflect how well someone operates under pressure than it does mastery of the material. I just read an article about how some professors, in an attempt to combat AI have turned to oral exams, which should be in every evaluator's toolbox. (Of course, this would reward people who are glib.)

    I'm also convinced that timed tests select against people with crap handwriting. Fall of fourth year, I took two of my bluebook mid terms and typed them out, word for word. I asked my professors to re-score the exams. In one case, my B+ would have been an A- and in the other, my A- was an a A. I'm sure my three-hour finals were even more greatly impacted.

    The question is what is being evaluated on an exam? For those of us who succeeded in school, we mastered being able to regurgitate info quickly. That was a testing skill, and I was good at it. My son has probably the broadest historical knowledge of anyone I know, and he really struggled with timed tests. He scraped by with Cs, and odds are, he's brighter than you or me. I don't think saying he could have used two hours for a 50-minute test makes him mentally weak.
     
  10. Khan

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    Sure, I understand all of that, and I do agree with you. Like you, I have decent test taking skills, and like you, I have crap penmanship.


    What I take issue with is @ceezmad and his idiotic question as to whether or not this is "the left fault." I'd like to have him defend his supposition that some Gen Z type's "need" for more time = the machinations of "the left."
     
  11. Dr. Wankler

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    There is definitely some system-gaming in the accommodation process, though in my experience it’s nearly always a parent who is actively involved in the process. It’s rarely instigated by the student (speaking of colleges here. Can’t say about the process in secondary schools).
     
  12. argentine soccer fan

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    Always.
     
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  13. Khan

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    So, in other words, helicopter Gen X types gaming the system on behalf of their Gen Z kids.

    And without attacking @ceezmad , shouldn't this therefore be in the education thread?
     
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  14. ceezmad

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    Go to the Atlantic article and how Congress (Democrats) expanded who qualified.

    Schools being woke and afraid of violating that law has created this problem.
     
  15. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    This is what you're worried about?
     
  16. superdave

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    Being afraid of violating a law is a good thing.

    Isn’t it?
     
  17. Kazuma

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    You have a history of posting anything bad = leftist problem. And I say this as someone who advocates for hippie punching.
     
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  18. chaski

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    The ADA Amendments Act of 2008 was signed by leftist President GW Bush.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADA_Amendments_Act_of_2008
     
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  19. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    You won't have to worry soon, ceezy. The Dept of Education is being murdered by Trumpism because it became Too Woke.
     
  20. ceezmad

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    It does look like it was very bipartisan.

    All Democrats and only 17 Republicans in the house voted against it.


    https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2008460

    Yes, but unintended consequences are a thing.


    I did ask that maybe it was an America overall issue.

    You don't approve?
     
  21. MattR

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    I'm going with rich Republicans. Bthe mind that used to rent disabled people at Disney so they could skip the line for it's a small world.

    Now they get Drs notes for anxiety and two hours more on the final.
     
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  22. Khan

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    I suspect that your second sentence is more cogent than the first. Then add into it permissive Gen X parents gaming the system for their Gen Z brats, and there you go.
     
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  23. Khan

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    Dude, there are clear examples of the political left earning every bit of criticism. But as @Kazuma posted, you tend to go the same way as "the global south" guy too much:

    "Derr, duh bad stuff is from duh left..."

    You and I live in a state where "the political left" have done plenty of things worthy of critique, but Gen Z kids/their parents enabling ain't one of them.
     
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  24. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    The Godless Faculty Left says a Chrisitanist student didn't do what the assignment asked. Student informs the Wingnut Wurlitzer (including Turning Point USA, natch) which turns it into a cause celebre. Because like a dog humping a leg, it's just what they do.

    A week before Thanksgiving break, she was on the phone with her mother, Kristi Fulnecky, a former Missouri politician and attorney who has taken up right-wing causes. The younger Fulnecky, a straight-A student who aims to become a pediatrician, told her mom that she was stunned by her grade on a recent psychology homework assignment, and insisted she had followed the instructions, Kristi said last week on a Missouri talk radio show.

    The assignment called for students to write a clear and thoughtful 650 word response to a scholarly article about gender expectations in society. According to screenshots shared by Turning Point USA’s local chapter, Fulnecky wrote in her essay that the article irritated her, and described how God created men and women differently. “Society pushing the lie that there are multiple genders and everyone should be whatever they want to be is demonic and severely harms American youth,” she wrote.

    Mel Curth, a graduate teaching assistant, wrote as part of the grading process that she had deducted points because Fulnecky submitted a “paper that does not answer the questions for this assignment, contradicts itself, heavily uses personal ideology over empirical evidence in a scientific class, and is at times offensive,” according to the screenshots of her messages.

    Megan Waldron, a second graduate student who teaches the course alongside Curth, agreed with the grade. “Everyone has different ways in which they see the world, but in an academic course such as this you are being asked to support your ideas with empirical evidence and higher-level reasoning,” she wrote to Fulnecky, according to the screenshots.

    Curth declined to comment, citing advice from her lawyer. Waldron did not respond to a request for comment.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/oklahoma-ou-student-essay-culture-war-rcna248530
     
  25. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    The Libtard here is worse

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