Criticism of the political left

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by ceezmad, Aug 9, 2015.

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  1. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    #3651 Q*bert Jones III, Feb 26, 2024
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    Maybe. Or maybe it's this:

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  2. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Can you please provide a citation for this ?
     
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  3. marek

    marek Member+

    Lechia Gdańsk
    Jun 27, 2000
    Club:
    OSP Lechia Gdansk
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    can you explain

    I don’t understand your banter/meme
     
  4. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is an obvious non sequiter.
     
  5. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
  6. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s from a work of fiction called the Righteous Gemstones.
     
  7. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This ballot measure would restore Roe. Abortion rights groups are attacking it.


    This is South Dakota, passing an amendment that is pro abortion will be difficult enough, yet some lefty organizations don't like it because the language on the amendment does not fully satisfy them.



    https://www.vox.com/24078960/south-dakota-abortion-ballot-measure-dobbs
     
  8. Val1

    Val1 Member+

    Arsenal
    Mar 12, 2004
    MD's Eastern Shore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Yeah, he's going to have to show his work on that.

    Q*bert did imply a pretty significant addendum to his assertion -- that the giving by the religious has to be discounted by the amount they give their church -- which has merit. I've done searches of this over the years and haven't found anything concrete.

    This is the best piece I've found, even though it's two decades old. This review is based on definitions that no longer have as much descriptive power as they used to -- how frequently one goes to church as a marker for religiousity -- but I don't think the behaviors have changed much.

    https://www.hoover.org/research/religious-faith-and-charitable-giving

    It's a long read, but the tl;dr version is that people of all faiths, regrdless of political leanings, give more, and importantly, volunteer more, with secular charities than do people described as secular.
     
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  9. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some of what I give my church is a user fee, and some is charity. The government says it’s all tax deductible. For me, for the purpose of this discussion, it would be kind of interesting how that calcukation would shake out.
     
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  10. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    There are some high profile lawsuits against the Mormon LDS church, most notably one of the Huntsman's, accusing of the organization of not using the charitable donations for their intended purpose.
     
  11. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    The purchase of Mormon longjohns? :p
     
  12. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I doubt that very much, if you are talking about truly religious people, or come to think of it, even about phony religious people. Religion, and especially religious fanatism, are proven powerful motivators, both for good and evil.

    At it's most extreme, the nun who risks horrible death to help ebola victims and the suicide bomber are equally willing to sacrifice their lives for their beliefs. At a lesser level, religious fervor does motivate people to give a lot, often anonymously, often more than what they reasonably can afford, to charities and causes both good and evil.

    Religious phonies, on the other hand, also often give a lot, but they will do it publicly and ostentatiously, and only from what they can easily afford.
     
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  13. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Colour me surprised. I mean, look at the size of their church! Cue the expensive middleman taking a healthy cut.
     
  14. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    They did build some beautiful buildings. Great acoustics too.
     
  15. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    This is their temple in Nauvoo, IL

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    Pretty nice of them to build one there, given that they were driven out of Nauvoo en masse a couple years after Joseph Smith died. Had my 19th century downstate Illinois homeys been more charitable, Nauvoo would be what Salt Like City is, and the Chicago Fire/Real Nauvoo derby would be epic.
     
  16. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Yeah, but we wouldn't have all those great ski resorts nearby.
     
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  17. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Actually, Nauvoo is on the Mississippi, so there would be water skiing.
     
  18. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    If you don’t mind swimming in toxic sewage.

    That temple is an attempt to recreate what was destroyed when they were kicked out. It was lit on fire in 1848, and then BBC a tornado took the structure down completely a couple years later.
     
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  19. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is about he UK left

    They just elected this guy to Parliament. (Maybe Scottish parliament)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Galloway

    (Workers Party of Britain)

     
  20. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Seemingly these Brits know about as much about the US as Americans know about Argentina.
     
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  21. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    What, a nightmare of Mendelian genetics gone wrong, brought about by polygamy and inbreeding?


    I for one celebrate and salute your 19th Century downstate Illinois homeys for kicking their asses the fvkc out of town.
     
  22. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    :confused:
     
  23. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Galloway's a bit of a Stalinist. I wouldn't have expected otherwise from him.
     
  24. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If the Police are not going to do anything bout it, then businesses will try to do something on their own, be it a guy beating a cigarette thief with a stick, or locking shit up.

    One thing I know for sure, corporations are not doing this because they like it, this increases costs; Extra cost to install them, less room for inventory, higher labor cost because you are making them do extra work to unlock each item.

    But then people wonder why did this happen.

     
  25. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Nobody wonders why stores lock up shit that gets stolen.

    Bottom line: your tweeter is too hopeful, and too emo. He needs to just sit back and watch.

    Stores can keep charging for formula/infant care items/etc. and standardized test scores will continue to drop. <shrugs> Enjoy the ride!
     

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